I don't disagree with anything you've said, maybe my point wasn't clear though. The post I replied to said: > shows that xmpp really isn't behind centralized

I don't disagree with anything you've said, maybe my point wasn't clear though. The post I replied to said: > shows that xmpp really isn't behind centralized silo messengers in functionality and usability. The siloed systems using non-federated XMPP (possibly with some private extensions) shows that it's technically very capable.