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One also has to consider that with regards to his objectionable decisions around 2016 - he had been innocently imprisoned for several years already back then. T
by rv-de 8y ago
One also has to consider that with regards to his objectionable decisions around 2016 - he had been innocently imprisoned for several years already back then. This takes a mental toll on somebody and will impair clearheadedness.
- ben_w 8y agoHe ran away from an extradition whose ultimate purpose was to determine if he was guilty or not. Even if he was innocent of the crime which he personally chose to avoid defending himself against in court — and hiding in an embassy until the statute of limitations expires makes me think otherwise — the fact that he definitely skipped bail and the fact that he’s living freely in an embassy not a prison both independently means he’s neither “innocently” nor “imprisoned”.
- yayana 8y agoFinding mentally vulnerable people and putting them in harm's way to stiffle a perceived opponent is standard operating procedure for the CIA. If Sweden is serious about investigating sex crimes against the vulnerable they need to dig in all directions to try to find the networks of foreign spies tasked with projects like putting vulnerble women into groups the Americans don't like and making sure something happens. But they will overlook crimes to protect those allies and follow their playbook to help those allies. So anyone against the Americans would be a fool to deal with the Swedish system if they were entraped only to end up extradited to hell. The latest news doesn't make Assange any worse. It makes it more transparent how sick and worthless the supposed free world is. Just another bunch of kangaroo courts and a thin veneer over secret police working illegally but with impunity to harm the rights of whoever necessary for their "more important" state secrets, aka system of corruption.
- ben_w 8y ago> Finding mentally vulnerable people and putting them in harm's way to stiffle a perceived opponent is standard operating procedure for the CIA. Simultaneously true (IMO) and irrelevant.
- yayana 8y agoIMO same semantics arguments as the Soviets made sure they could make with dissidents, insane asylums etc. All the evidence points to Assange being the victim of state sponsored organized crime that won't be investigated and he would be an idiot to "defend himself", etc, when it is clear they will move to military tribunals or murder him in confinement if that fits their problems.
- rv-de 8y agoThat trial would be political and biased. Same as what was done to Manning.
- ben_w 8y agoThe Swedish civilian trial would be held under the terms of an American court-martial?
- rv-de 8y agoThose allegations are obvious fabrications serving the purpose of eventually extraditing him to the US.
- ben_w 8y agoIf it was an “obvious fabrication” he ought to have been able to demonstrate that in court. Either the UK one or the Swedish one he ran away from. Quote: “””as a matter of fact, and looking at all the circumstances in the round, this person (Mr Assange) passes the threshold of being an accused person and is wanted for prosecution”””
- yayana 8y agoIt would be overriden by an extradition to the US.
- ben_w 8y agoWhy do you think extradition from Sweden to the USA was more likely than extradition from the UK to the USA?
- yayana 8y agoHe allegedly broke pretty specific Swedish sex law which probably doesn't have an equivalent in the UK.. In normal extradition treaties, being in the UK was safe from being in anyone's custody which is the ideal for no possibility of the US starting an extradition. No one can know the specifics of the US' soft power and assets except the US, and even then only in some abstract collective sense.