The concept that masculinity can itself be positive shouldn't be too hard to comprehend either but here we are. > men have no problems whatsoever speaking thei

The concept that masculinity can itself be positive shouldn't be too hard to comprehend either but here we are. > men have no problems whatsoever speaking their mind in regards to criticising women or feminism You haven't spent much time in democratic party meetings then. > The problem is that men who oppose feminism often don't even bother to approach its concepts on their own terms at all. And at which point do the "real feminists" stop and agree that it's just a fringe group of feminists that have an axe to grind against men? > ...that's not an attack on men, masculinity in general or on any healthy masculine traits. Um, it is? Just look at the framing, claiming that TM "restricts" males. Why is the assumption always that freedom to express is always what people need and will always be a positive outcome? Humans need structure in life, some more than others. When you try to deconstruct every social norm around a culture you will have a large amount of men who will find themselves lost in a landscape that is actively discouraging them from fitting within the beaten path laid before them. Maybe the reason men are killing themselves isn't because they don't cry more to their mates but because they are thrown into this modern world that is actively trying to push them towards transcendence of the human condition.