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One of the most interesting things about this is the reintroduction of a concern for non store apps. The new app model for Windows is a failure, there isn't a a

One of the most interesting things about this is the reintroduction of a concern for non store apps. The new app model for Windows is a failure, there isn't a app developed using the new model that can match anything developed using the "old".

titanix2 8y ago
I noticed the same exact thing. It's nice Microsoft finally see that its UWP/Store thing is a failure and start supporting the good old way instead of persisting to force developers using something they don't want.
- lostmsu 8y ago
  But they should, if they care about their users: UWP gives users capability-based jail, that protects them from potentially malicious or vulnerable app.
- pjmlp 8y ago
  Quite the opposite, I guess you haven't been paying attention to the developer sessions. They are building the infrastructure to place Win32 apps inside the same sandbox model as UWP, to the point they can share the same container model. Project Centipede and Desktop Brige were the first steps, the most recent one is the new MSIX package format. https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/sgern/2018/06/18/a-closer-look-at-msix/ https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/sgern/2018/06/18/a-closer-l... https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/MSIX-Blog/MSIX-Packaging-Tool-Preview-is-now-available-from-the-Microsoft/ba-p/216204 https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/MSIX-Blog/MSIX-Packag...
pjmlp 8y ago
Sure there is, Adobe XD for example. Win32 app are also store apps nowadays, specially after Desktop Bridge, MSIX containers and XAML islands got introduced. Oh, and any signed PWA have replaced UWP Hosted Web Apps, making W10 the only mainstream OS besides ChromeOS, where Web apps enjoy the same privileges as native apps.
- joenathanone 8y ago
  Adobe XD isn't showing as the available in the Microsoft App Store, but I can download it through Adobe CC desktop. I should have said UWP instead of store apps, my point being, I haven't seen one UWP app that isn't crippled in some way. I like what Microsoft is trying to do, but their execution leaves much to be desired.
  - pjmlp 8y ago
    There is only one single version of Adobe XD. Store apps can be installed via .appx, .msix or any third party installers like InstallShield.

titanix2 8y ago

I noticed the same exact thing. It's nice Microsoft finally see that its UWP/Store thing is a failure and start supporting the good old way instead of persisting to force developers using something they don't want.

lostmsu 8y ago
But they should, if they care about their users: UWP gives users capability-based jail, that protects them from potentially malicious or vulnerable app.
pjmlp 8y ago
Quite the opposite, I guess you haven't been paying attention to the developer sessions. They are building the infrastructure to place Win32 apps inside the same sandbox model as UWP, to the point they can share the same container model. Project Centipede and Desktop Brige were the first steps, the most recent one is the new MSIX package format. https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/sgern/2018/06/18/a-closer-look-at-msix/ https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/sgern/2018/06/18/a-closer-l... https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/MSIX-Blog/MSIX-Packaging-Tool-Preview-is-now-available-from-the-Microsoft/ba-p/216204 https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/MSIX-Blog/MSIX-Packag...

pjmlp 8y ago

Sure there is, Adobe XD for example. Win32 app are also store apps nowadays, specially after Desktop Bridge, MSIX containers and XAML islands got introduced. Oh, and any signed PWA have replaced UWP Hosted Web Apps, making W10 the only mainstream OS besides ChromeOS, where Web apps enjoy the same privileges as native apps.

joenathanone 8y ago
Adobe XD isn't showing as the available in the Microsoft App Store, but I can download it through Adobe CC desktop. I should have said UWP instead of store apps, my point being, I haven't seen one UWP app that isn't crippled in some way. I like what Microsoft is trying to do, but their execution leaves much to be desired.
- pjmlp 8y ago
  There is only one single version of Adobe XD. Store apps can be installed via .appx, .msix or any third party installers like InstallShield.