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I'm guessing you've never driven through California. https://sports.yahoo.com/barbershop-owner-apologizes-says-no-idea-offensive-hang-colin-kaepernick-doll-noo

I'm guessing you've never driven through California. https://sports.yahoo.com/barbershop-owner-apologizes-says-no-idea-offensive-hang-colin-kaepernick-doll-noose-180134702.html https://sports.yahoo.com/barbershop-owner-apologizes-says-no... California is a lot more Red than you think.. I've seen tons of Confederate flags here (which doesn't even make sense).

ummonk 8y ago
I've never seen a Confederate flag in California, and haven't really encountered any noticeable prejudice from small town / rural Californians in my travails through Northern California. Nothing like Oklahoma.
- almost_usual 8y ago
  Are you in an interracial relationship? I grew up in a small town in Illinois so I know what rural towns are like. I've definitely walked into bars and restaurants in rural Northern California and have had the entire place stare at us while we got seated. Felt exactly like rural Illinois. I have family members who are openly gay and I know places in Northern California I would _never_ take them. I also know of areas around the North along the coast where you can end up in a fist fight if you're an outsider especially from the Bay Area. That's less a red vs blue thing and more of a "I don't want outsiders in my town" vibe. If you go where the tourists aren't going you'll encounter some interesting things.
  - ummonk 8y ago
    No, I'm not in an interracial relationship and not gay either. I do look Muslim though. I'm sure there are places like this in NorCal, as you attest, and I haven't encountered them because I go mostly to the places where tourists go (while I tend to avoid the most popular tourist destinations in the state, my travels have still been for camping purposes, which means the places I go to are not strangers to outsiders). But the mere fact that I can live and travel in the state without encountering this kind of stuff is precisely the point. In Oklahoma, there is prejudice anywhere you go, even the towns and cities. (In fact, the main group of people in Oklahoma whom I remember being inclusive towards me were actually rural / very-small-town farmers)

ummonk 8y ago

I've never seen a Confederate flag in California, and haven't really encountered any noticeable prejudice from small town / rural Californians in my travails through Northern California. Nothing like Oklahoma.

almost_usual 8y ago
Are you in an interracial relationship? I grew up in a small town in Illinois so I know what rural towns are like. I've definitely walked into bars and restaurants in rural Northern California and have had the entire place stare at us while we got seated. Felt exactly like rural Illinois. I have family members who are openly gay and I know places in Northern California I would _never_ take them. I also know of areas around the North along the coast where you can end up in a fist fight if you're an outsider especially from the Bay Area. That's less a red vs blue thing and more of a "I don't want outsiders in my town" vibe. If you go where the tourists aren't going you'll encounter some interesting things.
- ummonk 8y ago
  No, I'm not in an interracial relationship and not gay either. I do look Muslim though. I'm sure there are places like this in NorCal, as you attest, and I haven't encountered them because I go mostly to the places where tourists go (while I tend to avoid the most popular tourist destinations in the state, my travels have still been for camping purposes, which means the places I go to are not strangers to outsiders). But the mere fact that I can live and travel in the state without encountering this kind of stuff is precisely the point. In Oklahoma, there is prejudice anywhere you go, even the towns and cities. (In fact, the main group of people in Oklahoma whom I remember being inclusive towards me were actually rural / very-small-town farmers)