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All features work without JavaScript I'm not sure why this is a selling point. Yes, there are many upsides to this, particularly from the maintainer's standpoi

by webXL 8y ago

All features work without JavaScript I'm not sure why this is a selling point. Yes, there are many upsides to this, particularly from the maintainer's standpoint, but I think it might just be a side-benefit that only certain users really care about. Eventually, there might be advantages to removing that "feature", and you might turn off users who joined largely because of it.

intertextuality 8y ago
I see it as a reflection of the website's overall design stance: no frills, no stupid material design, no js junk scripts. Just a fast-loading website that loads what it needs to. This kind of website is quite refreshing in 2018. Maybe one day it will have a tiny amount of JS, but let's cross that bridge when it comes. That's still better than the vast majority of modern websites built today.
- gbear605 8y ago
  It does already have some JS. On the builds page, when it is running a build, it refreshes every second to show new output.
  - Sir_Cmpwn 8y ago
    This is accomplished without JavaScript.
    - gbear605 8y ago
      There’s a script tag on the builds page that reloads the page every second, according to the page source. How is that not JavaScript?
      - Sir_Cmpwn 8y ago
        The key to doing it without JavaScript is this: <meta id="refresh" http-equiv="refresh" content="5"> The script you found removes it and does it a different way so it can scroll to the bottom. Optional progressive enhancement.
        gbear605 8y ago
        Ah, optional JavaScript. Makes sense
  - intertextuality 8y ago
    Even if it did have JS, I think most of the crowd would be fine with minimal JS also, since there are some legitimate use cases. Having JS is not the end of the world, but today's standard is to completely abuse it, leading to horrifically bloated websites.
mikorym 8y ago
I like this design decision. I can't talk for other people, but if a page looks good on a text based browser, I consider it to be well designed page (although I don't force the converse). The way I understand it, the only real reason why there is something like javascript at all is that one wants to improve latency / computing load on servers. But since javascript is already here, it is now easy to abuse it instead by cluttering all kinds of junk and computing to the page and to the browser / client.

by webXL 8y ago

intertextuality 8y ago

I see it as a reflection of the website's overall design stance: no frills, no stupid material design, no js junk scripts. Just a fast-loading website that loads what it needs to. This kind of website is quite refreshing in 2018. Maybe one day it will have a tiny amount of JS, but let's cross that bridge when it comes. That's still better than the vast majority of modern websites built today.

gbear605 8y ago
It does already have some JS. On the builds page, when it is running a build, it refreshes every second to show new output.
- Sir_Cmpwn 8y ago
  This is accomplished without JavaScript.
  - gbear605 8y ago
    There’s a script tag on the builds page that reloads the page every second, according to the page source. How is that not JavaScript?
    - Sir_Cmpwn 8y ago
      The key to doing it without JavaScript is this: <meta id="refresh" http-equiv="refresh" content="5"> The script you found removes it and does it a different way so it can scroll to the bottom. Optional progressive enhancement.
      - gbear605 8y ago
        Ah, optional JavaScript. Makes sense
- intertextuality 8y ago
  Even if it did have JS, I think most of the crowd would be fine with minimal JS also, since there are some legitimate use cases. Having JS is not the end of the world, but today's standard is to completely abuse it, leading to horrifically bloated websites.

mikorym 8y ago

I like this design decision. I can't talk for other people, but if a page looks good on a text based browser, I consider it to be well designed page (although I don't force the converse). The way I understand it, the only real reason why there is something like javascript at all is that one wants to improve latency / computing load on servers. But since javascript is already here, it is now easy to abuse it instead by cluttering all kinds of junk and computing to the page and to the browser / client.