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Even if that’s true — it’s not, no emails have been shown to be fake — it’s not illegal to publish false information.

elliekelly 8y ago
I didn't say the emails were fake. I said they were altered. The metadata, specifically. According to the NY Times they were alter to make it look like they were downloaded directly from a computer in the U.S. and to change the date the documents were obtained. And publishing false information is not illegal. Knowingly aiding a foreign government in their efforts to undermine an election is treason.
- monocasa 8y ago
  No metadata had been altered for any WikiLeaks releases.
  - elliekelly 8y ago
    Do you have any source for that? I'm not saying it's a fact that the data had been altered but I'm saying reasonable minds can draw that conclusion based on the information we have available.[1] You're oddly defensive of Assange and don't seem to have come to this thread with any interest in discussion. [1] https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/06/guccifer-leak-of-dnc-trump-research-has-a-russians-fingerprints-on-it/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/06/gucci...
    - monocasa 8y ago
      The Guccifer leaks are completely different from the WikiLeaks leaks. They have nothing to do with Assange.
      - elliekelly 8y ago
        From the recent indictment of the GRU Officers behind Guccifer: "Finally, on July 14th, Guccifer 2.0 sent WikiLeaks an encrypted attachment"
        monocasa 8y ago
        Except it doesn't say that. The indictment itself doesn't mention Wikileaks or Assange. https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download
- random314 8y ago
  > Knowingly aiding a foreign government in their efforts to undermine an election is treason. Assange is not a US citizen.
  - elliekelly 8y ago
    I don't believe citizenship is a requirement to be convicted of treason. There are a lot of members of the U.S. military who are not citizens. Surely they would be guilty of treason if they divulged secrets or aided a foreign country. People with green cards as well. Not that either of those situations apply to Assange. I've definitely read several news articles that say he stands accused of both treason and espionage, though. I do wonder how that works for a foreigner. Has he ever even been to the United States?
    - random314 8y ago
      Yes, none of those scenarios apply to assange. How does it matter if he has visited the US at some point in the past. It would be hilarious if he gets charged with treason. That might encourage MBS to charge Erdogan with treason!

I didn't say the emails were fake. I said they were altered. The metadata, specifically. According to the NY Times they were alter to make it look like they were downloaded directly from a computer in the U.S. and to change the date the documents were obtained. And publishing false information is not illegal. Knowingly aiding a foreign government in their efforts to undermine an election is treason.

monocasa 8y ago
No metadata had been altered for any WikiLeaks releases.
- elliekelly 8y ago
  Do you have any source for that? I'm not saying it's a fact that the data had been altered but I'm saying reasonable minds can draw that conclusion based on the information we have available.[1] You're oddly defensive of Assange and don't seem to have come to this thread with any interest in discussion. [1] https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/06/guccifer-leak-of-dnc-trump-research-has-a-russians-fingerprints-on-it/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/06/gucci...
  - monocasa 8y ago
    The Guccifer leaks are completely different from the WikiLeaks leaks. They have nothing to do with Assange.
    - elliekelly 8y ago
      From the recent indictment of the GRU Officers behind Guccifer: "Finally, on July 14th, Guccifer 2.0 sent WikiLeaks an encrypted attachment"
      - monocasa 8y ago
        Except it doesn't say that. The indictment itself doesn't mention Wikileaks or Assange. https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download
random314 8y ago
> Knowingly aiding a foreign government in their efforts to undermine an election is treason. Assange is not a US citizen.
- elliekelly 8y ago
  I don't believe citizenship is a requirement to be convicted of treason. There are a lot of members of the U.S. military who are not citizens. Surely they would be guilty of treason if they divulged secrets or aided a foreign country. People with green cards as well. Not that either of those situations apply to Assange. I've definitely read several news articles that say he stands accused of both treason and espionage, though. I do wonder how that works for a foreigner. Has he ever even been to the United States?
  - random314 8y ago
    Yes, none of those scenarios apply to assange. How does it matter if he has visited the US at some point in the past. It would be hilarious if he gets charged with treason. That might encourage MBS to charge Erdogan with treason!