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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/21/7-us-cities-that-will-pay-you-thousands-of-dollars-to-live-there.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/21/7-us-cities-that-will-pay-

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/21/7-us-cities-that-will-pay-you-thousands-of-dollars-to-live-there.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/21/7-us-cities-that-will-pay-yo... Financial relocation incentives don't appear to be anything new, but the alternatives never seemed to ring any bells for me. Hard to pin down precisely, but I think part of it was the fact that a lot of them were asking you to settle down in what might as well be the frontier in terms of urban density and amenities, or maybe the city in question was a burnt-out husk of its former self (a different kind of frontier almost), or maybe the incentive wasn't so much cash as much as loan assistance or some other thing that doesn't sound as sexy. Looking at the website, pretty obvious that they're not asking me to settle in a small town or a burnt-out husk of a city. Despite my biases against Oklahoma, I get the sense that this is a pretty exciting place to be. On top of that, the incentives actually seem very practical. It's cash, plain and simple. I like it, if you couldn't already tell.

stcredzero 8y ago
maybe the city in question was a burnt-out husk of its former self As a joke, I'd say that the actual choice is between a less populated burnt-out husk of its former self, a heavily populated burnt-out husk of its former self, or some degree of truly nowhere.
zumu 8y ago
I went to high school in Tulsa, so allow me to clear up some misconceptions. > Looking at the website, pretty obvious that they're not asking me to settle in a small town or a burnt-out husk of a city. In reality Tulsa is somewhere in between a "small town" and a "burnt out husk of city". > Despite my biases against Oklahoma, I get the sense that this is a pretty exciting place to be. It is not. Its main benefits are being cheap and not super cold.
- metildaa 8y ago
  See, I would be afraid to move to Tulsa with this context. I don't have a firm grasp on the economic outlook of the region, nor the demographics or the culture. Nor do I know how welcoming the citizens in Tulsa are toward gay, athiests like myself. I know most of my friends wouldn't feel comfortable (one calls the place she hails from Misery, in reference to the state and her former state of mind while growing up there).
  - mwcampbell 8y ago
    Seth Andrews, the founder of TheThinkingAtheist.com, grew up in Tulsa and called it "Jesustown" in his book Deconverted. (Not sure exactly how I wrote it as I listened to the audio version.)
itronitron 8y ago
It really depends on your definition of normal and comfortable, and how able you are to entertain yourself when you are not working or shacking up in your tornado shelter (which you will probably have to dig yourself.)
almost_usual 8y ago
Have a friend who went on tour recently and they mentioned how much they liked Tulsa. They live in San Diego right now and definitely can't afford a house in the area. Weird to see this post after talking to them about it.
0xffff2 8y ago
I mean this with all possible sincerity, but what gives you the impression that Tulsa would be an exciting place to be? I’ve never been to Tulsa, but my grandfather is from the state. My impression is that outside of OKC and maybe Tulsa, Oklahoma is basically a burnt out husk of a state.
- trading_wheels 8y ago
  And is OKC really much better? I was uncomfortable there and I'm a straight, white, married male. I can't imagine what it would be like to be brown or gay or anything outside a very narrow definition of "normal". I also can't believe that a smaller city could possibly be better than OK's larger centers...
knightswhosayni 8y ago
I live in Tulsa now. Don't do it. Just because this website says it is exciting doesn't mean it is. They are throwing money at the issue of a brain drain and lagging economy. Tons of people who "went to school in Tulsa" don't live there now because it is the opposite of exciting.
- neurobashing 8y ago
  I dunno, I used to live in Bartlesville. Tulsa was The Big City. It was very exciting compared to B-ville!
- pstuart 8y ago
  Thought experiment: you are now Mayor of Tulsa and have received a $100M grant to "make Tulsa exciting". Assume the situation is that whatever you propose would not be opposed. What would you do?
  - knightswhosayni 8y ago
    Allow new business to be created without the city's red tape and dismantle the old-boys club that drove away innovation for a century.
    - poulsbohemian 8y ago
      > dismantle the old-boys club How?
      - knightswhosayni 8y ago
        > Allow new businesses to be created without the city's red tape Mostly
  - themmes 8y ago
    “Brain drain” suggests there is a leak, makes not much sense to try attracting new brain without fixing the leak first. Identify who are “brain”, track their needs, provide intervening opportunities when they feel theyre not satisfied.
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stcredzero 8y ago

maybe the city in question was a burnt-out husk of its former self As a joke, I'd say that the actual choice is between a less populated burnt-out husk of its former self, a heavily populated burnt-out husk of its former self, or some degree of truly nowhere.

zumu 8y ago

I went to high school in Tulsa, so allow me to clear up some misconceptions. > Looking at the website, pretty obvious that they're not asking me to settle in a small town or a burnt-out husk of a city. In reality Tulsa is somewhere in between a "small town" and a "burnt out husk of city". > Despite my biases against Oklahoma, I get the sense that this is a pretty exciting place to be. It is not. Its main benefits are being cheap and not super cold.

metildaa 8y ago
See, I would be afraid to move to Tulsa with this context. I don't have a firm grasp on the economic outlook of the region, nor the demographics or the culture. Nor do I know how welcoming the citizens in Tulsa are toward gay, athiests like myself. I know most of my friends wouldn't feel comfortable (one calls the place she hails from Misery, in reference to the state and her former state of mind while growing up there).
- mwcampbell 8y ago
  Seth Andrews, the founder of TheThinkingAtheist.com, grew up in Tulsa and called it "Jesustown" in his book Deconverted. (Not sure exactly how I wrote it as I listened to the audio version.)

itronitron 8y ago

It really depends on your definition of normal and comfortable, and how able you are to entertain yourself when you are not working or shacking up in your tornado shelter (which you will probably have to dig yourself.)

almost_usual 8y ago

Have a friend who went on tour recently and they mentioned how much they liked Tulsa. They live in San Diego right now and definitely can't afford a house in the area. Weird to see this post after talking to them about it.

0xffff2 8y ago

I mean this with all possible sincerity, but what gives you the impression that Tulsa would be an exciting place to be? I’ve never been to Tulsa, but my grandfather is from the state. My impression is that outside of OKC and maybe Tulsa, Oklahoma is basically a burnt out husk of a state.

trading_wheels 8y ago
And is OKC really much better? I was uncomfortable there and I'm a straight, white, married male. I can't imagine what it would be like to be brown or gay or anything outside a very narrow definition of "normal". I also can't believe that a smaller city could possibly be better than OK's larger centers...

knightswhosayni 8y ago

I live in Tulsa now. Don't do it. Just because this website says it is exciting doesn't mean it is. They are throwing money at the issue of a brain drain and lagging economy. Tons of people who "went to school in Tulsa" don't live there now because it is the opposite of exciting.

neurobashing 8y ago
I dunno, I used to live in Bartlesville. Tulsa was The Big City. It was very exciting compared to B-ville!
pstuart 8y ago
Thought experiment: you are now Mayor of Tulsa and have received a $100M grant to "make Tulsa exciting". Assume the situation is that whatever you propose would not be opposed. What would you do?
- knightswhosayni 8y ago
  Allow new business to be created without the city's red tape and dismantle the old-boys club that drove away innovation for a century.
  - poulsbohemian 8y ago
    > dismantle the old-boys club How?
    - knightswhosayni 8y ago
      > Allow new businesses to be created without the city's red tape Mostly
- themmes 8y ago
  “Brain drain” suggests there is a leak, makes not much sense to try attracting new brain without fixing the leak first. Identify who are “brain”, track their needs, provide intervening opportunities when they feel theyre not satisfied.

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