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> It's because you love your job, you have to pay for that. I don't buy that. I don't think enjoying your job and being paid well need to be mutually exclusive

> It's because you love your job, you have to pay for that. I don't buy that. I don't think enjoying your job and being paid well need to be mutually exclusive. I think it's in an employer's best interest that their employees enjoy their job. Part of that is that an employee has to not feel the stress of being underpaid or overworked.

glibgil 8y ago
> I don't think enjoying your job and being paid well need to be mutually exclusive If there is a job, say museum docent, that the majority of qualified people would love to do then the salary of that job will approach $0. Museum docents are usually volunteers, but the chance for an art history major to practice their craft is valuable to the worker even at $0
- joesb 8y ago
  > If there is a job, say museum docent, that the majority of qualified people would love to do then the salary of that job will approach $0. Sure. But then you are assuming that what I love is what other people love. If there's only very few people who want to do those job, and I'm one of them. Should the pay be less only because I happen to love the job?
  - thecatspaw 8y ago
    No. In capitalism its a question of supply and demand. Usually the jobs that most people love, are in low demand, and high supply, so they can pay less. If you love a job that only very few people love, you can still make demands and request a high salary.
ralusek 8y ago
I just mean that "enjoying your job" has a monetary value. The employer can recognize that or not, but the employee always does.
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ocschwar 8y ago
They're not mutually exclusive, but they are negatively correlated. The more enjoyable a job is, the lower the salary the boss can offer before people balk at taking it. It isn't something you can suss out in individual cases, but statistically speaking it holds up. When I sysadminned in the turn of the millenium, I could definitely see the pay gap between running systems for corporate America and doing it for scientists in academia.
- maxxxxx 8y ago
  "The more enjoyable a job is, the lower the salary the boss can offer before people balk at taking it. " This is not in line what I saw when I worked as a contractor. The higher the pay was, the better people got treated. The worst places were non-profits where people took really low salaries. They not only didn't make money but were also treated like sh.t.
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- jasonm23 8y ago
  I may be misreading, but it seems you're looking for an antonym of balk. Balk: Hesitate or be unwilling to accept an idea or proposal.
  - wild_preference 8y ago
    I don't think so. Let's substitute balk: > The more enjoyable a job is, the lower the salary the boss can offer before people [hesitate to] take it.

glibgil 8y ago

> I don't think enjoying your job and being paid well need to be mutually exclusive If there is a job, say museum docent, that the majority of qualified people would love to do then the salary of that job will approach $0. Museum docents are usually volunteers, but the chance for an art history major to practice their craft is valuable to the worker even at $0

joesb 8y ago
> If there is a job, say museum docent, that the majority of qualified people would love to do then the salary of that job will approach $0. Sure. But then you are assuming that what I love is what other people love. If there's only very few people who want to do those job, and I'm one of them. Should the pay be less only because I happen to love the job?
- thecatspaw 8y ago
  No. In capitalism its a question of supply and demand. Usually the jobs that most people love, are in low demand, and high supply, so they can pay less. If you love a job that only very few people love, you can still make demands and request a high salary.

ralusek 8y ago

I just mean that "enjoying your job" has a monetary value. The employer can recognize that or not, but the employee always does.

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ocschwar 8y ago

They're not mutually exclusive, but they are negatively correlated. The more enjoyable a job is, the lower the salary the boss can offer before people balk at taking it. It isn't something you can suss out in individual cases, but statistically speaking it holds up. When I sysadminned in the turn of the millenium, I could definitely see the pay gap between running systems for corporate America and doing it for scientists in academia.

maxxxxx 8y ago
"The more enjoyable a job is, the lower the salary the boss can offer before people balk at taking it. " This is not in line what I saw when I worked as a contractor. The higher the pay was, the better people got treated. The worst places were non-profits where people took really low salaries. They not only didn't make money but were also treated like sh.t.
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jasonm23 8y ago
I may be misreading, but it seems you're looking for an antonym of balk. Balk: Hesitate or be unwilling to accept an idea or proposal.
- wild_preference 8y ago
  I don't think so. Let's substitute balk: > The more enjoyable a job is, the lower the salary the boss can offer before people [hesitate to] take it.