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Obama singled out the Kochs in 2015. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/08/26/war-words-obama-v-koch-brothers/32423959/ https://www.usatoday.com/

Obama singled out the Kochs in 2015. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/08/26/war-words-obama-v-koch-brothers/32423959/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/08/26/war-... Pelosi and Reid attended a conspiracy movie about the Kochs in 2014 https://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/harry-reid-nancy-pelosi-koch-movie-106735 https://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/harry-reid-nancy-pelo... Funny how we forget. I don't deny Trump is the loudest, he is Trump after all. But I could pull up Maddow, Moyers, etc episodes about the Kochs that are similar to how Tucker, Hannity etc have treated Soros. Trump has also attacked the Kochs (as has Tucker, Brietbart, etc,) fwiw. The Kochs are for DACA, for example. The simple fact is, none of these men (the Kochs or Soros) are "evil," they believe in what they believe and they put their money towards it. Simple as that. And because of that they are boogeymen to each side; since somehow each side thinks they (Soros & the Kochs) have some huge influenced...and having worked in DC circles myself and having various friends that have worked on the Hill...that's just totally false. They all WISH they had that power, and honestly if they did the world would probably be a lot simpler. Real politics is a lot more like Veep than it is House of Cards. That's not as thrilling as people want, but it's the truth.

ModernMech 8y ago
> The simple fact is, none of these men (the Kochs or Soros) are "evil," they believe in what they believe and they put their money towards it. Simple as that. It's one thing for Obama allege the Koch brothers are spending millions to advance an agenda in Congress. It's quite another for Trump to allege George Soros is funding a migrant caravan containing elements of terrorists, gang members, smallpox, and leprosy to invade the US southern border. That's why I'm saying its a false equivalence.
- partiallypro 8y ago
  I never said those were equivalent. But in terms of being boogeymen, they are. Read any article about the Kochs from the left, and you'd think they were planning the 4th Reich. And the fact that this belief is extremely popular on the left, and that very mainstream outlets perpetuate this shows how widespread it is. In fact many in this VERY thread are claiming that the Kochs are actually evil people, something you'd see scrawled in the comment section of Breitbart but in regards to Soros...and we're on Hacker News, a place of generally intellectual people.

ModernMech 8y ago

> The simple fact is, none of these men (the Kochs or Soros) are "evil," they believe in what they believe and they put their money towards it. Simple as that. It's one thing for Obama allege the Koch brothers are spending millions to advance an agenda in Congress. It's quite another for Trump to allege George Soros is funding a migrant caravan containing elements of terrorists, gang members, smallpox, and leprosy to invade the US southern border. That's why I'm saying its a false equivalence.

partiallypro 8y ago
I never said those were equivalent. But in terms of being boogeymen, they are. Read any article about the Kochs from the left, and you'd think they were planning the 4th Reich. And the fact that this belief is extremely popular on the left, and that very mainstream outlets perpetuate this shows how widespread it is. In fact many in this VERY thread are claiming that the Kochs are actually evil people, something you'd see scrawled in the comment section of Breitbart but in regards to Soros...and we're on Hacker News, a place of generally intellectual people.