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Why is it so hard for people to write posts like this without all the bias. Saying things like, “Everybody is trying to get you in and out the door, and take s

Why is it so hard for people to write posts like this without all the bias. Saying things like, “Everybody is trying to get you in and out the door, and take some profit from your pocket.” and "He agreed that most sleep apnea patients around the world are underserved: “Doctors don’t listen and don’t have time anywhere in the world.”" just makes the whole thing feel like a snake oil salesman at work. Saying it without the snide remarks is a much more powerful message, to me.

Apocryphon 8y ago
Would these efforts even exist if patients didn’t feel frustrated at the establishment professionals?
cjbprime 8y ago
It's free, open source software. I really don't think they're trying to sell you anything.
chc 8y ago
You want them to present a solution to a problem without implying that the problem exists? That seems like an unrealistic thing to ask for.
lfnoise 8y ago
In my experience, sleep apnea treatment in the US is a racket. The sleep center tried to maximize the number of office visits they could bill before prescribing treatment and the insurance tried to delay approvals and minimize the cost and quality of equipment they would provide. Meanwhile, patient suffers. After 5 months of repeated visits, when another 6 weeks was tacked on, I went out on my own and got the best machine.
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ceautery 8y ago
"take some profit from your pocket" is needlessly severe, but the sentiment that doctors are juggling too many patients resonates with me. "Doctors don't have time anywhere in the world" probably isn't accurate, but my doctor certainly never had enough time to listen to me, which caused me years of needless pain because of a simple misdiagnosis. I was frustrated enough with engaging with medical professionals that I instead just adopted a healthier lifestyle. My last regular checkup was in '09, and I next visited a doctor in 2013 when I pulled a muscle in my chest, and wanted to make sure I wasn't having a heart attack. Obviously my anecdote isn't proof that this is a systematic problem, but the fact that I see comments like this "in the wild" at least triggers my confirmation bias :)

Apocryphon 8y ago

Would these efforts even exist if patients didn’t feel frustrated at the establishment professionals?

cjbprime 8y ago

It's free, open source software. I really don't think they're trying to sell you anything.

chc 8y ago

You want them to present a solution to a problem without implying that the problem exists? That seems like an unrealistic thing to ask for.

lfnoise 8y ago

In my experience, sleep apnea treatment in the US is a racket. The sleep center tried to maximize the number of office visits they could bill before prescribing treatment and the insurance tried to delay approvals and minimize the cost and quality of equipment they would provide. Meanwhile, patient suffers. After 5 months of repeated visits, when another 6 weeks was tacked on, I went out on my own and got the best machine.

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ceautery 8y ago

"take some profit from your pocket" is needlessly severe, but the sentiment that doctors are juggling too many patients resonates with me. "Doctors don't have time anywhere in the world" probably isn't accurate, but my doctor certainly never had enough time to listen to me, which caused me years of needless pain because of a simple misdiagnosis. I was frustrated enough with engaging with medical professionals that I instead just adopted a healthier lifestyle. My last regular checkup was in '09, and I next visited a doctor in 2013 when I pulled a muscle in my chest, and wanted to make sure I wasn't having a heart attack. Obviously my anecdote isn't proof that this is a systematic problem, but the fact that I see comments like this "in the wild" at least triggers my confirmation bias :)