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He’s one of the most wealthy contributors to left wing activism. It has absolutely nothing to do with him being jewish - those claims demonstrate the ignorance

He’s one of the most wealthy contributors to left wing activism. It has absolutely nothing to do with him being jewish - those claims demonstrate the ignorance of the left regarding how right-leaning voters (who are overwhelmingly pro-israel due to their religious beliefs) think. Same thing the left says about Koch brothers, Sheldon Adelson (also Jewish, oops, there goes that theory), etc, just reversed. The left’s complete failure to understand the other side is why they were so shocked that Trump got elected. And it looks like we are in for a repeat in 2020, since they’ve learned nothing.

guelo 8y ago
I think you're right about antisemitism not being that big of a factor outside of the more extreme right wing corners. But I do think the nature of the Soros attacks highlight the mainstream right's propensity for believing in, or knowingly disseminating, false conspiracy theories.
tprnz 8y ago
This here is the truth. idk why people blame it on antisemitism alone (not saying it does not play a part). He's veeery wealthy and uses that wealth to push left wing politics through his foundations and stuff. I've seen many examples of left wing/communist/degenerate stuff that, when traced back, leads to one of his foundations. It's normal that those who are not left wing don't like him. That doesn't mean they are antisemitic automatically.
- pjc50 8y ago
  "Degenerate"? Soros was explicitly anti-communist before the fall of the Soviet union.
spamizbad 8y ago
It has a tremendous amount with him being Jewish. At least one person has shot up a Synagogue because of it. If you can point me to a left-wing agitator violently attacking Jewish people over the actions of Sheldon Adelson I'd love to see it. Otherwise this is just intellectually-lazy "Both-sides"ism.
tacomonstrous 8y ago
One difference between the Kochs, Adelson, et al and Soros is that for the former there is a very obvious link between the causes they fund and benefits to their own business empires (this is particularly stark with Adelson). Soros is harder to pin down and seems to be genuinely interested in the causes he supports, not just out of personal interest.
- partiallypro 8y ago
  The Kochs are libertarians, anything they do will be viewed as simply wanting to help their own business, even though that is not true when you actually evaluate what they have said. I personally don't think the Kochs nor Soros are bad people, and likely want what they view as what is best for society. They put their money where their mouths are, nothing nefarious about that. If the Kochs were only for their own self interests their main focus right now wouldn't be criminal justice reform.
  - uniacid 8y ago
    So a few donations to seemingly good causes make them good? Don't be easily fooled by their "generosity" as it's not always as it seems to be, many times they fund "independent" organizations or think tanks which really are just foils for them to push their Conservative agenda. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/we-now-know-how-the-koch-brothers-and-leonard-leo-buy-special-favors.html https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/we-now-know-how-... https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/12/trump-koch-brothers-deregulation-white-house/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/12/trump-koch-brot... https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/global-warming/climate-deniers/koch-industries/ https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/global-warming/climate-denier... https://www.ucsusa.org/publications/got-science/2017/got-science-feb-2017 https://www.ucsusa.org/publications/got-science/2017/got-sci... I can keep going on, so please don't paint them as just some "nice" guys who give money.
    - partiallypro 8y ago
      You do know that Soros also funds think tanks, right? Anyhow, you just cited 4 left leaning sites, so that's not helpful (and actually proves my point in other parts of this thread!) Charles Koch himself does not deny climate change (you can read about this in actual news sites like the Washington Post,) he is against corporate welfare like the government directly/indirectly subsidizing Tesla, etc. Which is perfectly in line with his libertarianism. Even the one source you could argue is somewhat "real," was from an opinion writer. Here's the rest of his pieces, which uh, don't seem so unbiased. https://slate.com/author/mark-joseph-stern https://slate.com/author/mark-joseph-stern
uniacid 8y ago
Yeah nothing to do with dog whistles of Globalists usually referring to wealthy men of "Jewish" faith in control of the world. Also I don't think 2020 will be anything but a massive rebuttal to Trump and Republicans... https://www.nbcnews.com/card/almost-six-10-americans-believe-trump-should-not-be-reelected-n936261 https://www.nbcnews.com/card/almost-six-10-americans-believe...
lightbyte 8y ago
>those claims demonstrate the ignorance of the left regarding how right-leaning voters (who are overwhelmingly pro-israel due to their religious beliefs) think Those right-leaning voters are not pro-Israel because they like jews, they believe that if jews return to Israel it will bring about the apocalypse and they will be saved [1] [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism

guelo 8y ago

I think you're right about antisemitism not being that big of a factor outside of the more extreme right wing corners. But I do think the nature of the Soros attacks highlight the mainstream right's propensity for believing in, or knowingly disseminating, false conspiracy theories.

tprnz 8y ago

This here is the truth. idk why people blame it on antisemitism alone (not saying it does not play a part). He's veeery wealthy and uses that wealth to push left wing politics through his foundations and stuff. I've seen many examples of left wing/communist/degenerate stuff that, when traced back, leads to one of his foundations. It's normal that those who are not left wing don't like him. That doesn't mean they are antisemitic automatically.

pjc50 8y ago
"Degenerate"? Soros was explicitly anti-communist before the fall of the Soviet union.

spamizbad 8y ago

It has a tremendous amount with him being Jewish. At least one person has shot up a Synagogue because of it. If you can point me to a left-wing agitator violently attacking Jewish people over the actions of Sheldon Adelson I'd love to see it. Otherwise this is just intellectually-lazy "Both-sides"ism.

tacomonstrous 8y ago

One difference between the Kochs, Adelson, et al and Soros is that for the former there is a very obvious link between the causes they fund and benefits to their own business empires (this is particularly stark with Adelson). Soros is harder to pin down and seems to be genuinely interested in the causes he supports, not just out of personal interest.

partiallypro 8y ago
The Kochs are libertarians, anything they do will be viewed as simply wanting to help their own business, even though that is not true when you actually evaluate what they have said. I personally don't think the Kochs nor Soros are bad people, and likely want what they view as what is best for society. They put their money where their mouths are, nothing nefarious about that. If the Kochs were only for their own self interests their main focus right now wouldn't be criminal justice reform.
- uniacid 8y ago
  So a few donations to seemingly good causes make them good? Don't be easily fooled by their "generosity" as it's not always as it seems to be, many times they fund "independent" organizations or think tanks which really are just foils for them to push their Conservative agenda. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/we-now-know-how-the-koch-brothers-and-leonard-leo-buy-special-favors.html https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/we-now-know-how-... https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/12/trump-koch-brothers-deregulation-white-house/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/12/trump-koch-brot... https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/global-warming/climate-deniers/koch-industries/ https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/global-warming/climate-denier... https://www.ucsusa.org/publications/got-science/2017/got-science-feb-2017 https://www.ucsusa.org/publications/got-science/2017/got-sci... I can keep going on, so please don't paint them as just some "nice" guys who give money.
  - partiallypro 8y ago
    You do know that Soros also funds think tanks, right? Anyhow, you just cited 4 left leaning sites, so that's not helpful (and actually proves my point in other parts of this thread!) Charles Koch himself does not deny climate change (you can read about this in actual news sites like the Washington Post,) he is against corporate welfare like the government directly/indirectly subsidizing Tesla, etc. Which is perfectly in line with his libertarianism. Even the one source you could argue is somewhat "real," was from an opinion writer. Here's the rest of his pieces, which uh, don't seem so unbiased. https://slate.com/author/mark-joseph-stern https://slate.com/author/mark-joseph-stern

uniacid 8y ago

Yeah nothing to do with dog whistles of Globalists usually referring to wealthy men of "Jewish" faith in control of the world. Also I don't think 2020 will be anything but a massive rebuttal to Trump and Republicans... https://www.nbcnews.com/card/almost-six-10-americans-believe-trump-should-not-be-reelected-n936261 https://www.nbcnews.com/card/almost-six-10-americans-believe...

lightbyte 8y ago

>those claims demonstrate the ignorance of the left regarding how right-leaning voters (who are overwhelmingly pro-israel due to their religious beliefs) think Those right-leaning voters are not pro-Israel because they like jews, they believe that if jews return to Israel it will bring about the apocalypse and they will be saved [1] [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism