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> This is not some trivial web application, it's a federated social network To be fair, its cousin Pleroma is comparatively easy to install

yebyen 8y ago
Is it though? I had to dig for a while reading "what is/about pleroma" documents to find the link to the install doc, I think this is it: https://i2p.rocks/blog/the-magical-world-of-pleroma-setting-up-your-instance.html https://i2p.rocks/blog/the-magical-world-of-pleroma-setting-... Is this easier? It looks at least a bit more complicated at a glance to me. I haven't honestly tried either of them, but neither of these are simple to install. Add a config file to nginx, install erlang and use mix to grab the dependencies... these things are not totally foreign to me as a Ruby programmer, but I could see how a newbie would trip over them. I still don't know which part people are tripping over, I'd like to hear from GP... The Pleroma doc might actually be simpler because it skips over all of the "Hardening your instance" stuff, but I'm only guessing about what people see as the hard part, since none of this looks particularly hard to me. To be equally fair, it's really never as simple as "docker run someone/image:latest" – that's only the first step, so you can see it running. In Kubernetes terms, that's the equivalent of firing off a "run-once" pod. In other words, if that's all you did then it's not deployed yet.
- rogerbraun 8y ago
  The install docs are on the wiki: https://git.pleroma.social/pleroma/pleroma/wikis/Installing%20on%20Debian%20based%20distributions https://git.pleroma.social/pleroma/pleroma/wikis/Installing%...
  - yebyen 8y ago
    (so what's easier about that?)
    - fenwick67 8y ago
      It was a few months ago and I don't recall the details but I tried installing both, and Pleroma's intall process was noticeably easier. So it's just my experience. Mastodon also has this reputation on its own platform.

yebyen 8y ago

Is it though? I had to dig for a while reading "what is/about pleroma" documents to find the link to the install doc, I think this is it: https://i2p.rocks/blog/the-magical-world-of-pleroma-setting-up-your-instance.html https://i2p.rocks/blog/the-magical-world-of-pleroma-setting-... Is this easier? It looks at least a bit more complicated at a glance to me. I haven't honestly tried either of them, but neither of these are simple to install. Add a config file to nginx, install erlang and use mix to grab the dependencies... these things are not totally foreign to me as a Ruby programmer, but I could see how a newbie would trip over them. I still don't know which part people are tripping over, I'd like to hear from GP... The Pleroma doc might actually be simpler because it skips over all of the "Hardening your instance" stuff, but I'm only guessing about what people see as the hard part, since none of this looks particularly hard to me. To be equally fair, it's really never as simple as "docker run someone/image:latest" – that's only the first step, so you can see it running. In Kubernetes terms, that's the equivalent of firing off a "run-once" pod. In other words, if that's all you did then it's not deployed yet.

rogerbraun 8y ago
The install docs are on the wiki: https://git.pleroma.social/pleroma/pleroma/wikis/Installing%20on%20Debian%20based%20distributions https://git.pleroma.social/pleroma/pleroma/wikis/Installing%...
- yebyen 8y ago
  (so what's easier about that?)
  - fenwick67 8y ago
    It was a few months ago and I don't recall the details but I tried installing both, and Pleroma's intall process was noticeably easier. So it's just my experience. Mastodon also has this reputation on its own platform.