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I think you mean rate, not rank. In any case this is silly. The correct strategy is outlined here. http://scorevoting.net/RVstrat6.html http://scorevoting.net/

I think you mean rate, not rank. In any case this is silly. The correct strategy is outlined here. http://scorevoting.net/RVstrat6.html http://scorevoting.net/RVstrat6.html The evidence overwhelmingly shows that Approval Voting works well, arriving at outcomes that represent the will of the people. http://scorevoting.net/BayRegsFig.html http://scorevoting.net/BayRegsFig.html

Spivak 8y ago
Correct, I meant rate. My strategy isn't about strategic voting, it's how to represent the actual preferences of voters when all you have is approve/not approve.
- AstralStorm 8y ago
  You assume most people will vote at random? That is a completely uninteresting case that does not happen in reality. People tend to approve of candidates they know of. Likewise they tend to not approve candidates they do not know of or they dislike for any number of reasons. So these marks are not drawn from random distribution at all.
  - Spivak 8y ago
    Absolutely not. I'm saying that if in an election using approval voting people carried out my strategy that overall happiness with the results would be higher than if people voted according to the 'normal' instructions. Purely hypothetical, but to me illustrates the point that approval voting destroys valuable information about voter preferences because voters will turn out happier if they encode those preferences in their vote.
    - ClayShentrup 8y ago
      Total information throughput is about three major factors: - Ballot expressiveness - Strategic voting (which distorts sincere information) - Tabulation efficiency (e.g. IRV has more data on the ballot, but destroys a lot of it due to inefficient tabulation) You are making a common fallacy outlined here. https://sites.google.com/a/electology.org/www/expressiveness https://sites.google.com/a/electology.org/www/expressiveness When you look at total combined information throughput, Approval Voting does exceptionally well. http://scorevoting.net/BayRegsFig.html http://scorevoting.net/BayRegsFig.html
- ClayShentrup 8y ago
  That doesn't make sense. Your ballot can NEVER express your actual preferences except in a statistical sense—we can have some probability distribution for the actual preferences that created that Approval ballot. Thus using the standard strategy I mentioned is the most accurate way to convey your preferences. If you want them to appear as honest as possible, you just treat all candidates as equally likely to win, such that the formula simplifies down to your approval threshold being "average utility of all candidates".

Spivak 8y ago

Correct, I meant rate. My strategy isn't about strategic voting, it's how to represent the actual preferences of voters when all you have is approve/not approve.

AstralStorm 8y ago
You assume most people will vote at random? That is a completely uninteresting case that does not happen in reality. People tend to approve of candidates they know of. Likewise they tend to not approve candidates they do not know of or they dislike for any number of reasons. So these marks are not drawn from random distribution at all.
- Spivak 8y ago
  Absolutely not. I'm saying that if in an election using approval voting people carried out my strategy that overall happiness with the results would be higher than if people voted according to the 'normal' instructions. Purely hypothetical, but to me illustrates the point that approval voting destroys valuable information about voter preferences because voters will turn out happier if they encode those preferences in their vote.
  - ClayShentrup 8y ago
    Total information throughput is about three major factors: - Ballot expressiveness - Strategic voting (which distorts sincere information) - Tabulation efficiency (e.g. IRV has more data on the ballot, but destroys a lot of it due to inefficient tabulation) You are making a common fallacy outlined here. https://sites.google.com/a/electology.org/www/expressiveness https://sites.google.com/a/electology.org/www/expressiveness When you look at total combined information throughput, Approval Voting does exceptionally well. http://scorevoting.net/BayRegsFig.html http://scorevoting.net/BayRegsFig.html
ClayShentrup 8y ago
That doesn't make sense. Your ballot can NEVER express your actual preferences except in a statistical sense—we can have some probability distribution for the actual preferences that created that Approval ballot. Thus using the standard strategy I mentioned is the most accurate way to convey your preferences. If you want them to appear as honest as possible, you just treat all candidates as equally likely to win, such that the formula simplifies down to your approval threshold being "average utility of all candidates".