your first sentence is an extremely disingenuous and bad faith argument. we did not have anything remotely like two car family quarter acre lot suburban sprawl

your first sentence is an extremely disingenuous and bad faith argument. we did not have anything remotely like two car family quarter acre lot suburban sprawl. we also had nearly a full order of magnitude fewer people. I also never said "everyone". this is very common response from people who feel personally attacked, they respond defensively with an extreme re-formulation of what was said. you're posting on HN so i'm hoping I can appeal to whatever piece of your brain is capable of reasoning in the abstract. look at both lines of your response. think about them.