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I imagine a major justification, especially for Amazon, is to stop paying Oracle $$$. I'm not sure if you consider that a technical, or a business justificatio

I imagine a major justification, especially for Amazon, is to stop paying Oracle $$$. I'm not sure if you consider that a technical, or a business justification, but I don't really see a distinction here. Some more strictly technical justifications would be: * Aurora has the potential to be a better architecture in the long run because it has something closer to an active/active redundancy, rather than Oracle's primary/secondary architecture, where fail-overs are manual and/or prone to failure. * Aurora can also scale out to larger database sizes than Oracle.

withhighprod 8y ago
Exactly it’s order of magnitude larger then the second largest customer of oracle not too long ago
grumpydba 8y ago
Oracle has had active/active for years. It's called RAC and costs around one arm.
- wiredfool 8y ago
  But if the primary arm goes down, they’ll have your leg take over payments.
- chasil 8y ago
  Oracle Standard Edition used to cost around $8k/core. Now Standard Edition 2 costs $17k/core, but I believe it includes a license to use Real Application Clusters (RAC), justifying the price hike. Not much justification if you're only running a single instance, though.
  - grumpydba 8y ago
    This is insanely expensive indeed. And limited to one socket per node.
    - chasil 8y ago
      Here is the price list: https://www.oracle.com/assets/technology-price-list-070617.pdf https://www.oracle.com/assets/technology-price-list-070617.p... SE2 processor license is $17,500. Enterprise processor license is $47,500.
      - thorin 8y ago
        Interesting, I don't think I've ever seen a comprehensive price list before and I've worked with Oracle for 20 years. Generally I've been somewhere with a site licence so you can use almost anything or used XE and bought standard one for production.
      - glogla 8y ago
        But SE2 (and formerly SE1) is 17500 per socket, while Enteprise is 47500 per core. There's also core scaling factor, which used to be 0.5 for Xeon. So single 8 core CPU is 17500 with SE2, but 40.547500.

withhighprod 8y ago

Exactly it’s order of magnitude larger then the second largest customer of oracle not too long ago

grumpydba 8y ago

Oracle has had active/active for years. It's called RAC and costs around one arm.

wiredfool 8y ago
But if the primary arm goes down, they’ll have your leg take over payments.
chasil 8y ago
Oracle Standard Edition used to cost around $8k/core. Now Standard Edition 2 costs $17k/core, but I believe it includes a license to use Real Application Clusters (RAC), justifying the price hike. Not much justification if you're only running a single instance, though.
- grumpydba 8y ago
  This is insanely expensive indeed. And limited to one socket per node.
  - chasil 8y ago
    Here is the price list: https://www.oracle.com/assets/technology-price-list-070617.pdf https://www.oracle.com/assets/technology-price-list-070617.p... SE2 processor license is $17,500. Enterprise processor license is $47,500.
    - thorin 8y ago
      Interesting, I don't think I've ever seen a comprehensive price list before and I've worked with Oracle for 20 years. Generally I've been somewhere with a site licence so you can use almost anything or used XE and bought standard one for production.
    - glogla 8y ago
      But SE2 (and formerly SE1) is 17500 per socket, while Enteprise is 47500 per core. There's also core scaling factor, which used to be 0.5 for Xeon. So single 8 core CPU is 17500 with SE2, but 40.547500.