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My suggestion right now(from a Mac user), is a Windows 10 machine with the Linux subsystem installed. You'll have an entire Linux environment integrated into Wi
by overcast 8y ago
My suggestion right now(from a Mac user), is a Windows 10 machine with the Linux subsystem installed. You'll have an entire Linux environment integrated into Windows, giving you the best of both worlds. Supported software, hardware, and your natural development environment. Honestly, I'm weary of moving anything to Google with their track record of just abandoning projects, and privacy concerns.
- mav3rick 8y agoWith all due respect WSL will always be behind Google's implementation. WSL implements a subset of linux syscalls to get compatibility. Crostini's guest OS is a Debian image so there are less compatibility challenges than WSL.
- overcast 8y agoI haven't run into any compatibility problems, and was able to get my environment running identical to the production server. So how does what you said affect my experience? It works without jumping further into Google's uncertain ecosystem. And when I'm not working, I can fire up my Steam library, all on the same machine.
- mav3rick 8y agoAnd that's great. But there will be edge cases when it won't behave like stock Linux. If you do give Crostini a try would love to hear your views :) cheers
- jaxn 8y agoThe only issues I have found that are inconsistent with stock Linux are on hardware and X11 support. For rails/node/Vue development, WSL is Linux through and through.
- heartbreak 8y agoLet's compare apples to apples, then. I can run a full Debian guest in a VM on Windows, too. That's not new, but that appears to be the demonstrated capability of ChromeOS here. WSL is a step further in that it's _not_ virtualized.
- mav3rick 8y agoapples to apples- WSL is the implementation that's integrated with Windows not a random VM running Linux. Chrome OS has a VM solution that's integrated with Chrome OS (files, apps in the same menus). The comparison is fair.
- Lio 8y agoIf you're unhappy with Google's surveillance surely you'd want to avoid swapping that with Microsoft's surveillance/telemetry? MS Security have the right to dip into you machine anytime they fancy it too.
- overcast 8y agoDon't have a choice if I want to play games. Might as well make use of the machine when I'm not, otherwise I'm on my 10+ year old MacPro because Apple decided they are abandoning the developers that made them billions.
- pjmlp 8y ago> ... developers that made them billions. Those are the developers creating macOS, iOS and watchOS applications in Objective-C and Swift, not the ones using macOS as pretty UNIX.
- PascLeRasc 8y agoHave you given Steam Proton a chance? I don't play PC games but it seems pretty stable.
- jjuel 8y agoCrostini isn't as mature yet as WSL is, but Crostini is better in my opinion.
- celkam 8y agoIf Crostini gets USB support before WSL, though... Once they add this and fix the lack of GPU support, I'll finally be down to one travel laptop.
- spurgu 8y agoRemind me, what's best about the Windows world again? Games?
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- bduerst 8y agoPretty much. Does Visual Studio run well on a Mac or is it hot garbage like Office?
- pjmlp 8y agoGames, a 3D API that doesn't suck, an actual OO ABI, a kernel that isn't yet another UNIX clone, one of the best IDEs on the school from Xerox PARC workstations, a shell that uses structured data and integrates with OS APIs, user space drivers.
- favadi 8y agoIs Windows 10's Linux subsystem capable of doing real development works yet?