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This sounds like the experience my kids had when they got their XBox One last Christmas. It took literally 2 hours before we could play anything on it. Softwar

by setquk 8y ago

This sounds like the experience my kids had when they got their XBox One last Christmas. It took literally 2 hours before we could play anything on it. Software is now "ship it quick and fix it later" and that's wrong.

colechristensen 8y ago
Yeah fortunately or not, best practice for a gifted game system is to update it before it's given.
fhood 8y ago
Ha! You expect that from a console, but I just bought a tv, and it had to fucking update before I could use it. And on top of that it wanted me to create an account. For a TV!
- dwighttk 8y ago
  burn it with fire
  - setquk 8y ago
    Totally agree. I don't actually have a Smart TV now. I've got a dumbass TV and it's actually fast and reliable for once!
- badwolf 8y ago
  One of the several reasons I never even connect a smart-TV to the network. nothanks.
nkrisc 8y ago
Had this same experience with an Xbox One someone gifted me. Immediately soured me on it but I stuck with it. However I also don't use it all that frequently so every time I powered it up to watch a Blu-ray or play a game I had to do a 10-30 minute download and update. After a few times of that I just never turned it on again. Now I'll never use it again because the day I do will be a day of downloading and updating. Screw that. I know you can set it to a mode where it can stay minimally powered on and update itself, but I use it so infrequently why would I waste all that power?
chrisper 8y ago
Same here. I got the RDR2 PS4 Pro bundle and had to install the game for 2 hours first.
ssimpson 8y ago
that was my exact experience when i bought one to play RDR2. I took forever to update, then when RDR2 came out that took forever to install and update. Not to mention all the updates chewed up 15% of my comcast data cap that month. Its sad that I have to think about my purchases in terms of how much of my data cap i'm going to go through.
- ukyrgf 8y ago
  This has been my reality since Comcast announced that awful data cap. I have to juggle streaming TV/movies, video game patches, and various cloud backups just to make sure we don't go over. This is at a house with just two adults that are at work 10+ hours a day. I throttle my TV's connection speed, think twice about sharing files from home->work computer, defer security patches on software, etc. Even with auto-updates turned off, the PS4 will download patches when in rest mode. I used to love renting games at Redbox, but the rise of huge patches makes that impossible. I rented the Modern Warfare remaster thinking it was an old game and would mostly work out of the box. I was shocked to see it try to download a 40 GB patch. I canceled the download and played the game without the patch and returned the game the next day (it's not a remaster; they re-made everything and it stinks). The next day, I turned on my PS4 to see it had downloaded and installed the patch without me. 5% of my data cap, gone. An aside, I stumbled across https://physicalgames.wordpress.com/ps4-update-sizes/ https://physicalgames.wordpress.com/ps4-update-sizes/ a few months ago and like to reference it before making any purchases. Fallout 74 is a hard pass for me.
  - ssimpson 8y ago
    i know right?! i have have two kids and they are constantly streaming stuff off disney, nick jr, and pbs apps. i wish there was a way to cache locally the stuff they just watch over and over so i'm not getting hit over and over. Also, all the instant on streaming ads! i know its probably a small amount but what if that is what pushes me over. I'm probably going to switch to centurylink soon.
drawkbox 8y ago
Exactly, the project managers and management had to hit a date, the game wasn't ready. So we live in the world of ship it broken/incomplete, just so a PM can hit their date, quality of the game be damned. I prefer Valve Time to make sure things are as quality, complete and correct as possible [1]. The worst part about these 50GB games and 'patches' is that it takes a few days to get it down sometimes with the data capped/throttled ISP 'networks' we have settled for milking us out of transfer, and big games like this really let them hinder your 'network' for a few days, knocking you offline, data/packet loss and more as they think you are doing something malicious with their 'smart' 'network' throttling. [1] https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time
wvenable 8y ago
What I always do is unbox the product, do all the updates, charge the batteries (if portable), and then package it back up and wrap it for Christmas.
- setquk 8y ago
  Not a bad idea. Kids are getting old now and I hadn't worked this out yet :) Back in 1985 I got a BBC Micro for Christmas. I turned it on. Beep Boop and I had BASIC in front of me. Anything that doesn't do that magic will get my fist shaking while the onion on my belt wibbles around damn it :)

by setquk 8y ago

colechristensen 8y ago

Yeah fortunately or not, best practice for a gifted game system is to update it before it's given.

fhood 8y ago

Ha! You expect that from a console, but I just bought a tv, and it had to fucking update before I could use it. And on top of that it wanted me to create an account. For a TV!

dwighttk 8y ago
burn it with fire
- setquk 8y ago
  Totally agree. I don't actually have a Smart TV now. I've got a dumbass TV and it's actually fast and reliable for once!
badwolf 8y ago
One of the several reasons I never even connect a smart-TV to the network. nothanks.

nkrisc 8y ago

Had this same experience with an Xbox One someone gifted me. Immediately soured me on it but I stuck with it. However I also don't use it all that frequently so every time I powered it up to watch a Blu-ray or play a game I had to do a 10-30 minute download and update. After a few times of that I just never turned it on again. Now I'll never use it again because the day I do will be a day of downloading and updating. Screw that. I know you can set it to a mode where it can stay minimally powered on and update itself, but I use it so infrequently why would I waste all that power?

chrisper 8y ago

Same here. I got the RDR2 PS4 Pro bundle and had to install the game for 2 hours first.

ssimpson 8y ago

that was my exact experience when i bought one to play RDR2. I took forever to update, then when RDR2 came out that took forever to install and update. Not to mention all the updates chewed up 15% of my comcast data cap that month. Its sad that I have to think about my purchases in terms of how much of my data cap i'm going to go through.

ukyrgf 8y ago
This has been my reality since Comcast announced that awful data cap. I have to juggle streaming TV/movies, video game patches, and various cloud backups just to make sure we don't go over. This is at a house with just two adults that are at work 10+ hours a day. I throttle my TV's connection speed, think twice about sharing files from home->work computer, defer security patches on software, etc. Even with auto-updates turned off, the PS4 will download patches when in rest mode. I used to love renting games at Redbox, but the rise of huge patches makes that impossible. I rented the Modern Warfare remaster thinking it was an old game and would mostly work out of the box. I was shocked to see it try to download a 40 GB patch. I canceled the download and played the game without the patch and returned the game the next day (it's not a remaster; they re-made everything and it stinks). The next day, I turned on my PS4 to see it had downloaded and installed the patch without me. 5% of my data cap, gone. An aside, I stumbled across https://physicalgames.wordpress.com/ps4-update-sizes/ https://physicalgames.wordpress.com/ps4-update-sizes/ a few months ago and like to reference it before making any purchases. Fallout 74 is a hard pass for me.
- ssimpson 8y ago
  i know right?! i have have two kids and they are constantly streaming stuff off disney, nick jr, and pbs apps. i wish there was a way to cache locally the stuff they just watch over and over so i'm not getting hit over and over. Also, all the instant on streaming ads! i know its probably a small amount but what if that is what pushes me over. I'm probably going to switch to centurylink soon.

drawkbox 8y ago

Exactly, the project managers and management had to hit a date, the game wasn't ready. So we live in the world of ship it broken/incomplete, just so a PM can hit their date, quality of the game be damned. I prefer Valve Time to make sure things are as quality, complete and correct as possible [1]. The worst part about these 50GB games and 'patches' is that it takes a few days to get it down sometimes with the data capped/throttled ISP 'networks' we have settled for milking us out of transfer, and big games like this really let them hinder your 'network' for a few days, knocking you offline, data/packet loss and more as they think you are doing something malicious with their 'smart' 'network' throttling. [1] https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time

wvenable 8y ago

What I always do is unbox the product, do all the updates, charge the batteries (if portable), and then package it back up and wrap it for Christmas.

setquk 8y ago
Not a bad idea. Kids are getting old now and I hadn't worked this out yet :) Back in 1985 I got a BBC Micro for Christmas. I turned it on. Beep Boop and I had BASIC in front of me. Anything that doesn't do that magic will get my fist shaking while the onion on my belt wibbles around damn it :)