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Surely Amazon Corretto is just going to fracture the Java ecosystem?

by aranw 8y ago

fnord123 8y ago
It's already split between Java8 laggards and Java11. Spark for example hasn't been able to upgrade to Java9 due to their use of some Unsafe stuff. Hadoop just upgraded from 7 to 8 last year.
- pron 8y ago
  Unsafe is still accessible even in JDK 11. May require some command-line flags, though.
  - thayne 8y ago
    Java9+ broke some undocumented functionality that Spark, Hadoop, etc. may have been using.
DannyB2 8y ago
You can get Open JDK from any of the following places on them intarweb tubes, and they don't seem to fracture the ecosystem. Linux is available from many places, it may seem fractured, yet Linux seems to be taking over the world. Even Microsoft now "loves" Linux. https://aws.amazon.com/fr/corretto/ https://aws.amazon.com/fr/corretto/ https://github.com/corretto https://github.com/corretto https://adoptopenjdk.net/ https://adoptopenjdk.net/ https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK https://github.com/ojdkbuild/ojdkbuild https://github.com/ojdkbuild/ojdkbuild http://www.azul.com/downloads/zulu/ http://www.azul.com/downloads/zulu/ https://jdk.java.net/11/ https://jdk.java.net/11/ https://developers.redhat.com/products/openjdk/download/ https://developers.redhat.com/products/openjdk/download/ https://github.com/SAP/SapMachine https://github.com/SAP/SapMachine https://bell-sw.com/java.html https://bell-sw.com/java.html
- pron 8y ago
  Hopefully, OpenJDK would be less fractured than Linux. One thing to note, though, is that you can only call your JDK "OpenJDK" if it's a build of the OpenJDK project, with no substantial additions or removal of code[1]. Most free JDKs are, indeed, OpenJDK, with the exception of the JDK based on IBM's OpenJ9 JVM, even though it uses parts of the OpenJDK codebase. [1]: http://openjdk.java.net/legal/openjdk-trademark-notice.html http://openjdk.java.net/legal/openjdk-trademark-notice.html
- karianna 8y ago
  AdoptOpenJDK will be working with Amazon and the other providers to make sure there's some consistency between the binaries, no point in fragmenting all over the place, consumers expect to be able to drop in replacements.

Surely Amazon Corretto is just going to fracture the Java ecosystem?

by aranw 8y ago

Surely Amazon Corretto is just going to fracture the Java ecosystem?

It's already split between Java8 laggards and Java11. Spark for example hasn't been able to upgrade to Java9 due to their use of some Unsafe stuff. Hadoop just upgraded from 7 to 8 last year.

pron 8y ago
Unsafe is still accessible even in JDK 11. May require some command-line flags, though.
- thayne 8y ago
  Java9+ broke some undocumented functionality that Spark, Hadoop, etc. may have been using.

DannyB2 8y ago

You can get Open JDK from any of the following places on them intarweb tubes, and they don't seem to fracture the ecosystem. Linux is available from many places, it may seem fractured, yet Linux seems to be taking over the world. Even Microsoft now "loves" Linux. https://aws.amazon.com/fr/corretto/ https://aws.amazon.com/fr/corretto/ https://github.com/corretto https://github.com/corretto https://adoptopenjdk.net/ https://adoptopenjdk.net/ https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK https://github.com/ojdkbuild/ojdkbuild https://github.com/ojdkbuild/ojdkbuild http://www.azul.com/downloads/zulu/ http://www.azul.com/downloads/zulu/ https://jdk.java.net/11/ https://jdk.java.net/11/ https://developers.redhat.com/products/openjdk/download/ https://developers.redhat.com/products/openjdk/download/ https://github.com/SAP/SapMachine https://github.com/SAP/SapMachine https://bell-sw.com/java.html https://bell-sw.com/java.html

pron 8y ago
Hopefully, OpenJDK would be less fractured than Linux. One thing to note, though, is that you can only call your JDK "OpenJDK" if it's a build of the OpenJDK project, with no substantial additions or removal of code[1]. Most free JDKs are, indeed, OpenJDK, with the exception of the JDK based on IBM's OpenJ9 JVM, even though it uses parts of the OpenJDK codebase. [1]: http://openjdk.java.net/legal/openjdk-trademark-notice.html http://openjdk.java.net/legal/openjdk-trademark-notice.html
karianna 8y ago
AdoptOpenJDK will be working with Amazon and the other providers to make sure there's some consistency between the binaries, no point in fragmenting all over the place, consumers expect to be able to drop in replacements.