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Surely anyone bothered by this can just request that their data be nuked? Thanks GDPR.
by Jmcdd 8y ago
Surely anyone bothered by this can just request that their data be nuked? Thanks GDPR.
- LeoPanthera 8y agoWill the GDPR still apply in the UK after it leaves the EU?
- pdpi 8y agoAIUI, the GDPR by itself doesn't apply to the UK (or any other EU member state in particular). Instead, the GDPR forces member states to enact laws that implement those rules. This means that, after Brexit, the GDPR implementation laws will still be law in the UK. Depending on the outcome of the Brexit negotiations, the UK might or might not be in a position to repeal those laws at their own discretion.
- detaro 8y agothe key word is General Data Protection Regulation. Regulations are law, and apply directly, no local implementation needed (except for "interfaces", e.g. in the case of GDPR changes to existing laws to clarify how they interact with GDPR and to make exceptions GDPR explicitly allows the states to make) Directives are the ones that only direct the states to enact laws implementing them.
- chippy 8y agoYep, I think the current understanding is that all EU laws will still apply - they kind of grandfather them in - with the understanding that they could repeal them at a later date (as they can for any law).
- ben_w 8y agoAs with everything else Brexit related, technically the UK won’t be bound but practically it will have to choose between following one of the three major economic blocks — EU, USA, China — or struggling economically because they refuse to believe the Commonwealth is not on that list.
- Angostura 8y agoYes. Though the British government will be able to then amend regulations, they say the intention is to basically keep it. http://www.blplaw.com/expert-legal-insights/articles/gdpr-and-brexit-uk-government-unveils-data-protection-plans http://www.blplaw.com/expert-legal-insights/articles/gdpr-an...
- gumby 8y agoBetter do that before Brexit, when GDPR is (currently) supposed to stop being applicable to British citizens.
- duxup 8y agoIf Brexit ever happens... so many contradictions in what folks think about it / want from it and what it is / what deal anyone can actually make.
- 666lumberjack 8y agoIt will have to happen - the vocal leavers would create an absolute shitstorm if the government even considered reneging on article 50. Even if we weren't in a situation where the leadership of both relevant parties is committed to Brexit it'd be political suicide. As of today it's looking more and more likely that the separation will be in name more than in function though.
- KaiserPro 8y ago> As of today it's looking more and more likely that the separation will be in name more than in function though. its worse than that. Its what nobody wants: tied to some parts of the EU, with no say whatso ever. In the case of the finance industry, it'll be 60 days notice to comply or access is withdrawn. Brilliant for the EU as it means that it can start creaming off the finance industry and the vast sums of money it generates in tax.
- KaiserPro 8y agoIt will happen automatically, by law in march. That is what article 50 does. The battle now is, what form does the divorce take, messy and sharp (no deal, where the UK has no access to anything without lots of barriers) or really painful, where we loose access to lots of things, but retain access to a few key things. There is a very remote chance, very remote, that a referendum will take place, but unless article 50 is rescinded it will be meaningless, as we will leave the EU automatically at the end of march.
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- EamonnMR 8y agoI wonder how GDPR will apply to models trained on user data. What does deleting user data look like in that case?
- toomuchtodo 8y agoI would assume deleting the model if you can't unwind specific user data used to evolve the model.
- tjoff 8y agoYou only have to delete data that is personally identifiable.
- toomuchtodo 8y agoCan you prove it isn't personally identifiable?
- ralmeida 8y agoCan you prove it is? Many many things can be personally identifiable given enough resources and associated data, so it's unclear whose burden of proof it is, especially considering sibling comment mentioning a GDPR exception to delete data if it causes sizable damage to a business.
- abainbridge 8y agoI work at Microsoft Research in the UK. A few weeks ago we had a lecture from a lawyer on exactly this subject. Her main point was that GDPR gives people the right to request their data be deleted but it gives companies the right to refuse if it would cause unreasonable damage to their business. Until a case makes its way through all levels of the court system, nobody knows how this collision of rights will be interpreted. I suspect someone would have to show that the model trained on their data revealed something about them in a practically harmful way.