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Incidentally, all this zen stuff came about during autocratic rule of China when the emperor outlawed logic...
by yters 8y ago
Incidentally, all this zen stuff came about during autocratic rule of China when the emperor outlawed logic...
- xte 8y agoI do not know when or where they came out in the world, however thus "zen" exists and are used even today... In actual formally democratic society.
- mcguire 8y agoI'm not so sure... Zen, in China, chan, is a mixture of Buddhism and Taoism, with Taoism originating in the 4th century BC during the warring states period along with most other influential Chinese philosophies (and, weirdly, much of Greek philosophy). One rival was Mohism, sort of a mix of logic and sophism (logic has origins in rhetoric); Zhuangzi has some points about "disputation" that make me feel more kindly to modern analytic philosophy. https://www.iep.utm.edu/zhuangzi/ https://www.iep.utm.edu/zhuangzi/ https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/zhuangzi/ https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/zhuangzi/ See also Arthur Whateley (?) and especially Angus Graham.
- yters 8y agoYeah, Mohism was outlawed because of its use of logic. Emperors don't like subjects that can think through the national policies.