> I suspect (but have no real evidence... yet) that SOME of this spaghetti garbage is due to the traits of procedural, OOP, mutable languages. It's comfortable

> I suspect (but have no real evidence... yet) that SOME of this spaghetti garbage is due to the traits of procedural, OOP, mutable languages. It's comfortable to blame the tools but in my experience it's a people problem, not a tool problem. I've looked back on my own code from years ago and wondered what I was thinking! I'm currently rewriting one of my own projects because it was done in a hurry with the requirements half-specified and my heart was not in it. But I've seen things from other people, insane twists of logic that can hardly be imagined. One of the projects I don't work on originates from the 80's. There is tons of actual code from the 80's in this product. It has a Windows GUI. It has a web interface. It started out on Unix at some point but now runs on Windows. It's written in a language that doesn't exist anymore. It costs millions of dollars. OOP vs. Functional is not really the question.