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This all seems to be entirely moot, given that there is a slim chance of this deal getting through parliament - assuming it’s anything like it’s expected to be.

This all seems to be entirely moot, given that there is a slim chance of this deal getting through parliament - assuming it’s anything like it’s expected to be. What a colossal waste of time.

arethuza 8y ago
Do you expect May to resign if it doesn't pass? NB I have no idea what is going to happen over the next while.
- matthewmacleod 8y ago
  I don’t see how she can stay in her position, but then I’ve been so baffled by what’s happened lately that anything’s now possible. You’re not alone, FWIW. I’m pretty sure literally nobody knows how this is going to play out.
  - jwdunne 8y ago
    I'm genuinely surprised she's hung on as long as she has. We're going through a very strange period in politics.
    - jcranmer 8y ago
      The UK prime minister's office is a hot potato. No one actually wants to be in a position where they have to make the hard decisions; they instead want to be in a position where they can criticize the decisions for being wrong (without having to offer any alternatives!).
    - matthewmacleod 8y ago
      Like the other reply says, nobody wants this job. It’s difficult to remain neutral, but… there’s realistically no feasible way to deliver Brexit without medium-term economic damage, or alternatively accepting essentially all EU rules while having minimal influence on them. Few serious politicians wanted it, and they don’t want to step into a role where they have to deliver it. The idea seems to be to let her take the blame for the inevitable failure first.
lozenge 8y ago
Nah, they're just blustering. Nobody would be crazy enough to let the UK crash out with no deal. Err... I hope...
- makomk 8y ago
  Last I heard, other MPs so keen to make sure that the UK wouldn't go for No Deal, they were threatening to make sure that the government couldn't get the changes to law required to make it possible through: https://twitter.com/TomMcTague/status/1061897525467234304 https://twitter.com/TomMcTague/status/1061897525467234304 Of course, this doesn't stop No Deal from happening, because it happens automatically on March 29th unless something changes... but it does ensure that it will be a complete and utter shitshow which will naturally be blamed entirely on Brexit supporters by the UK press. So that's basically the state of UK politics.
  - rosbrith 8y ago
    I think most of the press would rather seek to continue blaming the EU for not acceding to the UK's demands and remainers for failing to give Brexit their full support.

This all seems to be entirely moot, given that there is a slim chance of this deal getting through parliament - assuming it’s anything like it’s expected to be. What a colossal waste of time.

arethuza 8y ago

Do you expect May to resign if it doesn't pass? NB I have no idea what is going to happen over the next while.

matthewmacleod 8y ago
I don’t see how she can stay in her position, but then I’ve been so baffled by what’s happened lately that anything’s now possible. You’re not alone, FWIW. I’m pretty sure literally nobody knows how this is going to play out.
- jwdunne 8y ago
  I'm genuinely surprised she's hung on as long as she has. We're going through a very strange period in politics.
  - jcranmer 8y ago
    The UK prime minister's office is a hot potato. No one actually wants to be in a position where they have to make the hard decisions; they instead want to be in a position where they can criticize the decisions for being wrong (without having to offer any alternatives!).
  - matthewmacleod 8y ago
    Like the other reply says, nobody wants this job. It’s difficult to remain neutral, but… there’s realistically no feasible way to deliver Brexit without medium-term economic damage, or alternatively accepting essentially all EU rules while having minimal influence on them. Few serious politicians wanted it, and they don’t want to step into a role where they have to deliver it. The idea seems to be to let her take the blame for the inevitable failure first.

lozenge 8y ago

Nah, they're just blustering. Nobody would be crazy enough to let the UK crash out with no deal. Err... I hope...

makomk 8y ago
Last I heard, other MPs so keen to make sure that the UK wouldn't go for No Deal, they were threatening to make sure that the government couldn't get the changes to law required to make it possible through: https://twitter.com/TomMcTague/status/1061897525467234304 https://twitter.com/TomMcTague/status/1061897525467234304 Of course, this doesn't stop No Deal from happening, because it happens automatically on March 29th unless something changes... but it does ensure that it will be a complete and utter shitshow which will naturally be blamed entirely on Brexit supporters by the UK press. So that's basically the state of UK politics.
- rosbrith 8y ago
  I think most of the press would rather seek to continue blaming the EU for not acceding to the UK's demands and remainers for failing to give Brexit their full support.