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I'm baffled that virtue signaling and openly blasting politics is still so widespread in companies and organizations. I have a huge "shit list" of those who I s

by s9w 8y ago

I'm baffled that virtue signaling and openly blasting politics is still so widespread in companies and organizations. I have a huge "shit list" of those who I see guilty enough to not want any business. Unfortunately especially in the tech market there's a huge number of "guilty" parties. Politics should not be a part of what companies and (to a lesser extend) organizations do, out of self-interest alone.

richmarr 8y ago
> self-interest alone At risk of blasting straight through Godwin's Law, this is the logic of 1930s IBM... and it should be resoundingly rejected.
- s9w 8y ago
  I'm not sure if that self-interest thing was misinterpreted. What I meant is that when people are alienated by corporate politics enough to not buy their things - then it's no longer in the economic self interest of the company.
  - richmarr 8y ago
    > I'm not sure if that self-interest thing was misinterpreted. What I meant is that when people are alienated by corporate politics enough to not buy their things - then it's no longer in the economic self interest of the company. Are you saying that's happened here? I live in Europe, but my understanding was that Trump fans were in a minority (based on the fact that Clinton got more votes but rural states have more electoral college votes per capita), which would make being anti-Trump more likely to be a successful marketing strategy.
    - s9w 8y ago
      > Are you saying that's happened here? I'm not sure, probably not. But I think in similar cases in the gaming industry this has definitely happened. BF5 just as a recent but non-ideal example. So it's dangerous for them, and hence my baffling.
      - apacheCamel 8y ago
        I am not sure BF5 relates to this at all. It seems like many people were under the impression DICE was involving "gender politics" into a video game even though women would have definitely been involved in the setting. The ones outraged by it, in my opinion, just wanted to be outraged by it instead of having a good reasoning behind it. The gaming industry also has a lot more artistic freedom in taking jabs at the political here and now.
threatofrain 8y ago
On the contrary, I'd say that any corporation that doesn't play politics in any nation, not just the US, has a competitive edge against those who don't. What people seem to be asking for is that corporations do it in a more savvy manner.

by s9w 8y ago

richmarr 8y ago

> self-interest alone At risk of blasting straight through Godwin's Law, this is the logic of 1930s IBM... and it should be resoundingly rejected.

s9w 8y ago
I'm not sure if that self-interest thing was misinterpreted. What I meant is that when people are alienated by corporate politics enough to not buy their things - then it's no longer in the economic self interest of the company.
- richmarr 8y ago
  > I'm not sure if that self-interest thing was misinterpreted. What I meant is that when people are alienated by corporate politics enough to not buy their things - then it's no longer in the economic self interest of the company. Are you saying that's happened here? I live in Europe, but my understanding was that Trump fans were in a minority (based on the fact that Clinton got more votes but rural states have more electoral college votes per capita), which would make being anti-Trump more likely to be a successful marketing strategy.
  - s9w 8y ago
    > Are you saying that's happened here? I'm not sure, probably not. But I think in similar cases in the gaming industry this has definitely happened. BF5 just as a recent but non-ideal example. So it's dangerous for them, and hence my baffling.
    - apacheCamel 8y ago
      I am not sure BF5 relates to this at all. It seems like many people were under the impression DICE was involving "gender politics" into a video game even though women would have definitely been involved in the setting. The ones outraged by it, in my opinion, just wanted to be outraged by it instead of having a good reasoning behind it. The gaming industry also has a lot more artistic freedom in taking jabs at the political here and now.

threatofrain 8y ago

On the contrary, I'd say that any corporation that doesn't play politics in any nation, not just the US, has a competitive edge against those who don't. What people seem to be asking for is that corporations do it in a more savvy manner.