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I think non-engineering issues were a focus in the Lion Air crash because of how poor Lion Air’s safety history has been, which included the egregious decision

by danso 8y ago

I think non-engineering issues were a focus in the Lion Air crash because of how poor Lion Air’s safety history has been, which included the egregious decision the allow its plane to continue flying despite sensor errors in its previous flights.

Someone1234 8y ago
> egregious decision the allow its plane to continue flying despite sensor errors in its previous flights. They fixed the previous issue[0]. Why is flying a fixed aircraft after following Boeing's own procedures to fix it a "egregious decision?" [0] https://www.financialexpress.com/world-news/indonesia-plane-crash-lion-air-ceo-edward-sirait-says-aircraft-had-technical-problem-in-previous-flight/1365164/ https://www.financialexpress.com/world-news/indonesia-plane-...
- inferiorhuman 8y ago
  > They fixed the previous issue[0]. Why is flying a fixed aircraft after following Boeing's own procedures to fix it a "egregious decision?" The New York Times accused Lion Air of falsifying maintenance records. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/08/world/asia/indonesia-plane-crash-last-moments.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/08/world/asia/indonesia-plan... > Pilots and former safety regulators said that Lion Air flight and maintenance crews regularly filled out two log books, one real and one fake, to hide malfeasance.
- cjbprime 8y ago
  There may be some semantics here. They "resolved" the issue, which I think can involve merely documenting that it is known.
- _Codemonkeyism 8y ago
  How can it be fixed when the plane crashed?
- danso 8y ago
  The story you posted is from Oct. 29. Since then, it has been reported that the airspeed indicator was malfunctioning in its final 4 flights: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/06/world/asia/lion-air-crash.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/06/world/asia/lion-air-crash...
tigershark 8y ago
We are speaking about a brand new plane delivered in August that crashed after two months. Even if you really wanted to blame lion air, do you think is acceptable for a new plane to self destruct after two months for a bug? I think is not acceptable and I will never fly a 737 max. These airplanes should all be grounded now until a fix is in place.

by danso 8y ago

Someone1234 8y ago

> egregious decision the allow its plane to continue flying despite sensor errors in its previous flights. They fixed the previous issue[0]. Why is flying a fixed aircraft after following Boeing's own procedures to fix it a "egregious decision?" [0] https://www.financialexpress.com/world-news/indonesia-plane-crash-lion-air-ceo-edward-sirait-says-aircraft-had-technical-problem-in-previous-flight/1365164/ https://www.financialexpress.com/world-news/indonesia-plane-...

inferiorhuman 8y ago
> They fixed the previous issue[0]. Why is flying a fixed aircraft after following Boeing's own procedures to fix it a "egregious decision?" The New York Times accused Lion Air of falsifying maintenance records. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/08/world/asia/indonesia-plane-crash-last-moments.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/08/world/asia/indonesia-plan... > Pilots and former safety regulators said that Lion Air flight and maintenance crews regularly filled out two log books, one real and one fake, to hide malfeasance.
cjbprime 8y ago
There may be some semantics here. They "resolved" the issue, which I think can involve merely documenting that it is known.
_Codemonkeyism 8y ago
How can it be fixed when the plane crashed?
danso 8y ago
The story you posted is from Oct. 29. Since then, it has been reported that the airspeed indicator was malfunctioning in its final 4 flights: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/06/world/asia/lion-air-crash.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/06/world/asia/lion-air-crash...

tigershark 8y ago

We are speaking about a brand new plane delivered in August that crashed after two months. Even if you really wanted to blame lion air, do you think is acceptable for a new plane to self destruct after two months for a bug? I think is not acceptable and I will never fly a 737 max. These airplanes should all be grounded now until a fix is in place.