4 ms·

What is the right-wing ideological equivalent where its adherents would attempt to deplatform, smear, etc. someone for violating its dogma, and what is the dogm

by yasp 8y ago

What is the right-wing ideological equivalent where its adherents would attempt to deplatform, smear, etc. someone for violating its dogma, and what is the dogma?

joemi 8y ago
Put simply: Pretty much most of what Trump stands for. In a way, he's even the "religious leader".
rootusrootus 8y ago
"patriotism"
happytoexplain 8y ago
There's plenty of extreme harassment, attacks, and "shouting down" coming from the right in response to any ideological disagreement from the left. Worse, explicit calls to violence (that have been answered) and encouragement of hatred from people all the way up and down the chain, from anonymous internet posters to the president. I'm not saying this is worse than the equivalent from the left, but to say it's not there is naive. Additionally, as far as I can tell, nearly all of the major instances of deplatforming of "the right" have really been deplatforming of meaningless hateful garbage or calls to violence that violate terms of service, but have been framed as attacks on the right, which seems like a really awful mischaracterization of the right.
root_axis 8y ago
The president is the leader of a right-wing ideology and he attempted to deplatform and smear kneeling players in the NFL. He explicitly asked the NFL to fire kneeling players and smeared them by deliberately misrepresenting their stated position (that they are kneeling to protest police violence).
slavik81 8y ago
Anita Sarkeesian is an example. She received a barrage of violent threats over her feminist critique of video game stories. The threats basically destroyed any hope of a rational conversation.
- deleted 8y ago
  [deleted]
Sacho 8y ago
The controversy over abortion rights is way beyond deplatforming and smearing, there's actual murders by self-described anti-abortionists. In George Tiller's case, his clinic was firebombed("deplatforming"?) and O'Reilly had criticized("smearing"?) him heavily, before the assassination.
yesenadam 8y ago
Gee. The US spent most of the 20th C invading countries, mostly for 'violating its dogma' - for being too democratic, for not being subservient enough, in the service of US business interests, mainly. Supporting dictators, giving a lot of weapons, training torturers, subverting democracy, assisting/staging coups, etc etc from Guatemala to Iran. It's a long and well-known story.[0] Millions died. [0] Although not well-known enough. Good starting points might be the Chomsky's political books (they're extensively referenced - don't just take his word for things, read his sources too), and Scott Noble's documentaries: http://metanoia-films.org/ http://metanoia-films.org/

by yasp 8y ago

What is the right-wing ideological equivalent where its adherents would attempt to deplatform, smear, etc. someone for violating its dogma, and what is the dogma?

joemi 8y ago

Put simply: Pretty much most of what Trump stands for. In a way, he's even the "religious leader".

rootusrootus 8y ago

"patriotism"

happytoexplain 8y ago

There's plenty of extreme harassment, attacks, and "shouting down" coming from the right in response to any ideological disagreement from the left. Worse, explicit calls to violence (that have been answered) and encouragement of hatred from people all the way up and down the chain, from anonymous internet posters to the president. I'm not saying this is worse than the equivalent from the left, but to say it's not there is naive. Additionally, as far as I can tell, nearly all of the major instances of deplatforming of "the right" have really been deplatforming of meaningless hateful garbage or calls to violence that violate terms of service, but have been framed as attacks on the right, which seems like a really awful mischaracterization of the right.

root_axis 8y ago

The president is the leader of a right-wing ideology and he attempted to deplatform and smear kneeling players in the NFL. He explicitly asked the NFL to fire kneeling players and smeared them by deliberately misrepresenting their stated position (that they are kneeling to protest police violence).

slavik81 8y ago

Anita Sarkeesian is an example. She received a barrage of violent threats over her feminist critique of video game stories. The threats basically destroyed any hope of a rational conversation.

deleted 8y ago
[deleted]

Sacho 8y ago

The controversy over abortion rights is way beyond deplatforming and smearing, there's actual murders by self-described anti-abortionists. In George Tiller's case, his clinic was firebombed("deplatforming"?) and O'Reilly had criticized("smearing"?) him heavily, before the assassination.

yesenadam 8y ago

Gee. The US spent most of the 20th C invading countries, mostly for 'violating its dogma' - for being too democratic, for not being subservient enough, in the service of US business interests, mainly. Supporting dictators, giving a lot of weapons, training torturers, subverting democracy, assisting/staging coups, etc etc from Guatemala to Iran. It's a long and well-known story.[0] Millions died. [0] Although not well-known enough. Good starting points might be the Chomsky's political books (they're extensively referenced - don't just take his word for things, read his sources too), and Scott Noble's documentaries: http://metanoia-films.org/ http://metanoia-films.org/