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You're making a vague, sweeping claim here without any evidence to back it up. Also, I think you're misusing the term "liberalism" here. Liberalism is an ideol

You're making a vague, sweeping claim here without any evidence to back it up. Also, I think you're misusing the term "liberalism" here. Liberalism is an ideology that supports freedom of expression and diverse viewpoints. The illiberal leftist ideologies that you seem to be referring to are not a part of liberalism (the issue is that liberalism and the political left tend to get conflated in American usage).

yasp 8y ago
s/liberalism/progressivism if you care that much about labels. In my opinion they are rather fluid, and 19th century / early 20th century liberalism is not present day liberalism, which I find to be perhaps only a slightly milder form of progressivism. And as far as providing an argument or evidence goes, I think the essay "How Dawkins Got Pwnd" [1] makes the case better than I could, so I'll simply refer you there. [1] https://gist.github.com/jart/b73868081a5e1a1c5cf0 https://gist.github.com/jart/b73868081a5e1a1c5cf0
taneq 8y ago
> The illiberal leftist ideologies that you seem to be referring to are not a part of liberalism I actually think it's incredibly telling that a group that used to identify themselves as "liberal" have renamed themselves "progressive". Rather than freedom of expression and ideology, they now espouse a mandated direction "forward" and no longer value freedom.