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Sadly, the Chinese government has less incentive to let the poor survive. It’s a cold, heartless form of population control. There are government officials who

Sadly, the Chinese government has less incentive to let the poor survive. It’s a cold, heartless form of population control. There are government officials who have come to the conclusion that delaying or not providing drugs for things like cancer will eventually help keep the country stable financially. In a country the size of China, they simply can’t afford to let everyone live to 85.

justicezyx 8y ago
They can. It's just some shady semi-government-worker-semi-business-man who controls the important channel for extracting money, and usually they do not want poor people to live. See for example: https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/China-s-Changsheng-Bio-technology-hit-by-heavy-penalties-in-vaccine-scandal https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/China-s-Changshen... Some companies produces fake vaccines and regulated the vaccine market to not allow imported vaccines.
powerapple 8y ago
cheaper medicine means cheaper bill for the social system, how can that be a bad thing?
charlysl 8y ago
Denying medical treatment was used as a form of torture in the Mao years: Liu Shaoqi was a Chinese revolutionary, politician, and theorist. He was Chairman of the NPC ... Originally groomed as Mao's successor, Liu antagonized him in the early 1960s before the .... He was denied medicine for his diabetes, by then a long-term illness, and for pneumonia, which he developed after his arrest.
- helloindia 8y ago
  Its also used now. That's why many dissidents die from lack of medical care in Prison. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/world/asia/liu-xiaobo-medical-care-dissidents.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/world/asia/liu-xiaobo-med...
zachguo 8y ago
You probably watched too much Fox news. This is just a Chinese version of dallas buyers club.
tcj_phx 8y ago
> Sadly, the Chinese government has less incentive to let the poor survive. It’s a cold, heartless form of population control. [...] I have some friends who lived in Canada for a while. They said the Canadian medical system doesn't go all-out to treat people with cancer, which is probably just as well. Someone I knew (United States) just passed away from cancer. She spent 3 years getting treated, then died after a single day on hospice care. Medicare paid in full, I'm sure: that final operation was not a success, but the doctors were paid anyways. Everyone dies eventually. American doctors are trained to try all the interventions they can possibly think of in a futile effort to prevent the inevitable. If my grandparents would have had to pay for their final months of interventions themselves, they certainly would have chosen to leave the funds in their estate. But since Medicare was paying they begrudgingly went along for the ride.
yourbandsucks 8y ago
That's a really damning statement of intent with no evidence whatsoever. Healthcare is hard, Americans especially should get that.

justicezyx 8y ago

They can. It's just some shady semi-government-worker-semi-business-man who controls the important channel for extracting money, and usually they do not want poor people to live. See for example: https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/China-s-Changsheng-Bio-technology-hit-by-heavy-penalties-in-vaccine-scandal https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/China-s-Changshen... Some companies produces fake vaccines and regulated the vaccine market to not allow imported vaccines.

powerapple 8y ago

cheaper medicine means cheaper bill for the social system, how can that be a bad thing?

charlysl 8y ago

Denying medical treatment was used as a form of torture in the Mao years: Liu Shaoqi was a Chinese revolutionary, politician, and theorist. He was Chairman of the NPC ... Originally groomed as Mao's successor, Liu antagonized him in the early 1960s before the .... He was denied medicine for his diabetes, by then a long-term illness, and for pneumonia, which he developed after his arrest.

helloindia 8y ago
Its also used now. That's why many dissidents die from lack of medical care in Prison. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/world/asia/liu-xiaobo-medical-care-dissidents.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/world/asia/liu-xiaobo-med...

zachguo 8y ago

You probably watched too much Fox news. This is just a Chinese version of dallas buyers club.

tcj_phx 8y ago

> Sadly, the Chinese government has less incentive to let the poor survive. It’s a cold, heartless form of population control. [...] I have some friends who lived in Canada for a while. They said the Canadian medical system doesn't go all-out to treat people with cancer, which is probably just as well. Someone I knew (United States) just passed away from cancer. She spent 3 years getting treated, then died after a single day on hospice care. Medicare paid in full, I'm sure: that final operation was not a success, but the doctors were paid anyways. Everyone dies eventually. American doctors are trained to try all the interventions they can possibly think of in a futile effort to prevent the inevitable. If my grandparents would have had to pay for their final months of interventions themselves, they certainly would have chosen to leave the funds in their estate. But since Medicare was paying they begrudgingly went along for the ride.

yourbandsucks 8y ago

That's a really damning statement of intent with no evidence whatsoever. Healthcare is hard, Americans especially should get that.