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No, I don’t have evidence. But I find it unlikely that HBO wants grainy versions of full TV episodes (eg filmed from a VHS recording playing on a TV) on the pag

No, I don’t have evidence. But I find it unlikely that HBO wants grainy versions of full TV episodes (eg filmed from a VHS recording playing on a TV) on the page of some random YT uploader (not an HBO page or influencer or etc) even if somehow in exchange for tiny CPM royalties. That is only one of several examples I have seen. Perhaps in the case of HBO they could be doing a better job given their size & resources, but for smaller creators it would be a challenge and why should the burden be on them anyway?

icebraining 8y ago
Can you link to one of these videos filmed from a VHS recording playing on a TV which has several million views?
- manquer 8y ago
  Individually they don't get million views as beyond a certain view count youtube will flag and remove. However I have seen plenty of shows get constantly reuploaded with new accounts. They usually crop or put some padding animation etc to get through content ID. With HBO' content you can search for example John Oliver's non free segments which are not available on the official channel
  - icebraining 8y ago
    Right, but that's not what alanlamm was talking about. The claim was that there were videos with millions of views that were trivially detectable, and that Google simply didn't care.
    - PavlovsCat 8y ago
      https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpmOEfgOG-6uC7Y45UI1VU9s1pTJ5YBbp https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpmOEfgOG-6uC7Y45UI1V... First result for "HBO movie".
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      - icebraining 8y ago
        So a bunch of twenty year old movies (not actually by HBO for the most part, but whatever) that probably didn't sell even at the time. My guess is that those companies didn't even bother to submit them to Content-ID, considering that Google had no problem detecting a bunch of copyright songs in those movies, for which they're paying royalties. If submitting stuff to Content-ID is the "challenge" that alanlamm was talking about, then fine, color me unconcerned.
        PavlovsCat 8y ago
        It's trivial to find obviously pirated content, and Google does not care (since it generates views). Being legally forced to react to complaints, and HBO not caring, are each separate from that. Which, admittedly, isn't what the original claim was, that HBO probably cares but that Google doesn't react. But Google doesn't care.
- alanlamm 8y ago
  1yo Brazilian full feature length film that had a cinema release. 52k views - example of a professional but small creator being pirated. https://youtu.be/ZvQljiVg-xU https://youtu.be/ZvQljiVg-xU Another Brazilian feature film about 6yo - 3.4M views on a profile whose name translates to “watch films online”, with a FOX intro at the beginning. https://youtu.be/r8KGMyfXXHo https://youtu.be/r8KGMyfXXHo 1h old Showtime comedy special taken from TV, 1M views - https://youtu.be/Wo27OxaEB3w https://youtu.be/Wo27OxaEB3w If this is above board, what am I missing?

icebraining 8y ago

Can you link to one of these videos filmed from a VHS recording playing on a TV which has several million views?

manquer 8y ago
Individually they don't get million views as beyond a certain view count youtube will flag and remove. However I have seen plenty of shows get constantly reuploaded with new accounts. They usually crop or put some padding animation etc to get through content ID. With HBO' content you can search for example John Oliver's non free segments which are not available on the official channel
- icebraining 8y ago
  Right, but that's not what alanlamm was talking about. The claim was that there were videos with millions of views that were trivially detectable, and that Google simply didn't care.
  - PavlovsCat 8y ago
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpmOEfgOG-6uC7Y45UI1VU9s1pTJ5YBbp https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpmOEfgOG-6uC7Y45UI1V... First result for "HBO movie".
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    - icebraining 8y ago
      So a bunch of twenty year old movies (not actually by HBO for the most part, but whatever) that probably didn't sell even at the time. My guess is that those companies didn't even bother to submit them to Content-ID, considering that Google had no problem detecting a bunch of copyright songs in those movies, for which they're paying royalties. If submitting stuff to Content-ID is the "challenge" that alanlamm was talking about, then fine, color me unconcerned.
      - PavlovsCat 8y ago
        It's trivial to find obviously pirated content, and Google does not care (since it generates views). Being legally forced to react to complaints, and HBO not caring, are each separate from that. Which, admittedly, isn't what the original claim was, that HBO probably cares but that Google doesn't react. But Google doesn't care.
alanlamm 8y ago
1yo Brazilian full feature length film that had a cinema release. 52k views - example of a professional but small creator being pirated. https://youtu.be/ZvQljiVg-xU https://youtu.be/ZvQljiVg-xU Another Brazilian feature film about 6yo - 3.4M views on a profile whose name translates to “watch films online”, with a FOX intro at the beginning. https://youtu.be/r8KGMyfXXHo https://youtu.be/r8KGMyfXXHo 1h old Showtime comedy special taken from TV, 1M views - https://youtu.be/Wo27OxaEB3w https://youtu.be/Wo27OxaEB3w If this is above board, what am I missing?