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We need to take a MUCH harder stance against Russia poisoning the public discourse with conspiracy theories, fake news and alternative medicine/science/history/

We need to take a MUCH harder stance against Russia poisoning the public discourse with conspiracy theories, fake news and alternative medicine/science/history/morality. We have to restore values and trust to the public affairs.

partycoder 8y ago
The reason the world is in this state is the same reason your comment is the most upvoted.
peterlk 8y ago
To me, there is a better word for those things, and I don't understand why we do not use it. That word is: propaganda. Is there a good argument that fake news etc. Is not propaganda? To me calling it propaganda paints a clearer picture, because new words make it easy to claim that something is unprecedented. The problem is that if our own government falls victim to propaganda, then we have propagandistic narratives being pushed by the government, and that, to me, is as bad as it sounds. But, I think it also gives us a broader perspective to pull from history with
- aidenn0 8y ago
  The reach and effectiveness of Russia's propaganda is unprecedented. Also recent revelations make it clear that they were merely sowing dissent, rather than pushing any particular point of view. That's not new, but it's also not what comes to mind when one says "propaganda."
- dandare 8y ago
  Propaganda may be the end goal but the global mind poisoning operation includes all kind of BS - from alternative medicine & anti-vax, the flat earth theory and chemtrails, to white supremacism and religious bigotry - all used to spread doubts, alienation and confusion.
jryan49 8y ago
Pretty sure no one can disagree with that, but HOW do you do it? Even harder, how do you do it and respect free speech?
- AimForTheBushes 8y ago
  Education!
  - jryan49 8y ago
    In the US we spend 12 years in state mandated school and no body seems to come out any smarter :P
antocv 8y ago
God damn Ruskies are up at it again, poisoning our public discourse and our precious bodily... wait.
leesec 8y ago
Yes, it is the Russian's that have made America racist. America is just as guilty of this as anyone.
maxxxxx 8y ago
As far as the US goes their own parties have poisoned the the public discourse with conspiracy theories, fake news and alternative medicine/science/history/morality. Those parties should restore values and trust to the public affairs.

partycoder 8y ago

The reason the world is in this state is the same reason your comment is the most upvoted.

peterlk 8y ago

To me, there is a better word for those things, and I don't understand why we do not use it. That word is: propaganda. Is there a good argument that fake news etc. Is not propaganda? To me calling it propaganda paints a clearer picture, because new words make it easy to claim that something is unprecedented. The problem is that if our own government falls victim to propaganda, then we have propagandistic narratives being pushed by the government, and that, to me, is as bad as it sounds. But, I think it also gives us a broader perspective to pull from history with

aidenn0 8y ago
The reach and effectiveness of Russia's propaganda is unprecedented. Also recent revelations make it clear that they were merely sowing dissent, rather than pushing any particular point of view. That's not new, but it's also not what comes to mind when one says "propaganda."
dandare 8y ago
Propaganda may be the end goal but the global mind poisoning operation includes all kind of BS - from alternative medicine & anti-vax, the flat earth theory and chemtrails, to white supremacism and religious bigotry - all used to spread doubts, alienation and confusion.

jryan49 8y ago

Pretty sure no one can disagree with that, but HOW do you do it? Even harder, how do you do it and respect free speech?

AimForTheBushes 8y ago
Education!
- jryan49 8y ago
  In the US we spend 12 years in state mandated school and no body seems to come out any smarter :P

antocv 8y ago

God damn Ruskies are up at it again, poisoning our public discourse and our precious bodily... wait.

leesec 8y ago

Yes, it is the Russian's that have made America racist. America is just as guilty of this as anyone.

maxxxxx 8y ago

As far as the US goes their own parties have poisoned the the public discourse with conspiracy theories, fake news and alternative medicine/science/history/morality. Those parties should restore values and trust to the public affairs.