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Maybe the emphasis is too much on the suicides. It seems like the concern is not just about the suicide rate, but the general working conditions and lack of fre
by pcpcpc 8y ago
Maybe the emphasis is too much on the suicides. It seems like the concern is not just about the suicide rate, but the general working conditions and lack of freedom in China, in Shenzhen, and at Foxconn. Here's a pro-labor take on the challenges workers are facing on China and efforts to suppress reporting about these challenges [1]. The suicides (at Foxconn, in China, and around the world) are exacerbated by poor economic conditions [2].
China also has a lower suicide rate than the US even [3] although I'd be skeptical of underreporting, given China's low press freedom ranking (176 out of 180 [4]) and low "human freedom" ranking [5]. It's speculation but worth considering that things may be worse on the ground than what's being reported.
[1] https://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/condition-working-class-shenzhen-peasant-workers-authoritarian-consumerism https://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/condition-working-cl...
[2] https://journalistsresource.org/studies/society/public-health/suicides-during-great-recession-united-states-canada-europe https://journalistsresource.org/studies/society/public-healt...
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_r...
[4] https://rsf.org/en/ranking https://rsf.org/en/ranking
[5] https://www.cato.org/human-freedom-index https://www.cato.org/human-freedom-index
- FabHK 8y agoYes. Work conditions in China are no doubt worse even than in the USA. I am reminded of an article in The Onion reporting that "Chinese Employers To Grant 15-Minute Maternity Break" [1]. Having said that, I'd assume that the conditions at Foxconn are better than many other (particularly smaller) employers. But it's hard to tell from the outside. [1] https://www.theonion.com/chinese-employers-to-grant-15-minute-maternity-break-1819568485 https://www.theonion.com/chinese-employers-to-grant-15-minut...
- KaoruAoiShiho 8y agoLooked it up, it's 14 weeks which I guess isn't great.
- lotsofpulp 8y agoYou don’t even need an onion article for the US: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/21/business/pregnancy-discrimination-miscarriages.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/21/business/preg...