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Wait. RoundUp Ready means they are resistant or can metabolize glyphosate, not that they produce it. I'm not going to debate GMO, but this has zero to do with

Wait. RoundUp Ready means they are resistant or can metabolize glyphosate, not that they produce it. I'm not going to debate GMO, but this has zero to do with avoiding residual glyphosate in organic produce.

devy 8y ago
If RoundUp and glyphosate-based herbicide studies funded by Monsanto are proven to be fraudulent how could you trust RoundUp Ready?
- throwaway5752 8y ago
  I don't really understand your question. Because you are comparing a chemical with a plant with a gene added to be resistant to that chemical, "trust" is not material. I don't know - and won't debate, since I don't know - if there is any risk to GMOs. I don't know what risks there are to persistent glyphosate or AMPA exposure. But I do know that pesticide resistance is different that pesticide producing in very fundamental ways.
- bluGill 8y ago
  In the worst case of scientific fraud RoundUp Ready has been studied which is more than any other breeding method can claim. Ruby Red Grapefruit? They made that by putting a nuclear radiation source in the middle of an orchard and seeing what happened. Killed some trees, but somewhere was a grapefruit that tastes better. No scientific study was done. Organic - random mutations happen every generation, and none of them have ever been studied.
empath75 8y ago
If they can metabolize glyphosate does that mean it’s present in the plant?
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- wavefunction 8y ago
  I think it would depend on the efficiency of the metabolic process and availability of catalysts for that process at site. If it's very efficient then perhaps not very much is present, having been metabolized. Just some musings from a non-expert.
- jakeogh 8y ago
  Either way it's on the plant via overspray; if it wasn't, nobody would need the custom seeds. Looking at it's structure, it's relatively stable. I found many links on it's halflife; ~10-100 days in the environment. If low levels matter, then 10 halflifes might still be a problem.

devy 8y ago

If RoundUp and glyphosate-based herbicide studies funded by Monsanto are proven to be fraudulent how could you trust RoundUp Ready?

throwaway5752 8y ago
I don't really understand your question. Because you are comparing a chemical with a plant with a gene added to be resistant to that chemical, "trust" is not material. I don't know - and won't debate, since I don't know - if there is any risk to GMOs. I don't know what risks there are to persistent glyphosate or AMPA exposure. But I do know that pesticide resistance is different that pesticide producing in very fundamental ways.
bluGill 8y ago
In the worst case of scientific fraud RoundUp Ready has been studied which is more than any other breeding method can claim. Ruby Red Grapefruit? They made that by putting a nuclear radiation source in the middle of an orchard and seeing what happened. Killed some trees, but somewhere was a grapefruit that tastes better. No scientific study was done. Organic - random mutations happen every generation, and none of them have ever been studied.

empath75 8y ago

If they can metabolize glyphosate does that mean it’s present in the plant?

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wavefunction 8y ago
I think it would depend on the efficiency of the metabolic process and availability of catalysts for that process at site. If it's very efficient then perhaps not very much is present, having been metabolized. Just some musings from a non-expert.
jakeogh 8y ago
Either way it's on the plant via overspray; if it wasn't, nobody would need the custom seeds. Looking at it's structure, it's relatively stable. I found many links on it's halflife; ~10-100 days in the environment. If low levels matter, then 10 halflifes might still be a problem.