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Lions in the desert are smarter than we are then. We've "built" a far less quality world around us than even ants, bees, apes, birds. They at least have authent
by decentrality 8y ago
Lions in the desert are smarter than we are then. We've "built" a far less quality world around us than even ants, bees, apes, birds. They at least have authentic bonds left. We have arrangements and schemes.
- decentrality 8y agoI sincerely wish I were wrong.
- whatshisface 8y agoI think that human freedom and authenticity might be a little higher than bees.
- decentrality 8y agoIf we judge based on engagement? Can we be sure who is more invested? Regardless of the unknowns there, can we ascertain intrinsic loyalty and/or belonging and/or commensurate reward to investment and will/self contribution? I'm obviously attributing a lot to their mode of being. But if it's even remotely close to true, you don't think we have a lot to learn?
- whatshisface 8y agoBees are biological automatons without even the illusion of free will, and their association with each other is not comparable to society. We might have some things to learn about biochemistry or supply chain management or something, but they're not exactly philosophical analogues.
- aetherson 8y agoYeah, lions have awesome lives. Nothing like roving the world, murdering other males and eating their young, taking their females to breed and hunt for you, then inevitably getting murdered yourself by other roving males. It's a utopia!
- decentrality 8y agoWe do an approximation of the same, macrocosmically, with little to no satisfaction. And they remain in balance with their ecosystem. And as far as we can tell their mind or conscience or consciousness is uncluttered by any of their acts.
- aetherson 8y agoNeat! How many of your half-siblings were devoured by your father? (Also: God, "remain in balance with their ecosystem" is such a mendacious phrase. People use it all the time, as if animals have some kind of mystical gaia sense that says, "Woah, woah, woah lion, you're using too many natural resources here. Maybe just meditate today." Here's how lions "remain in balance with their ecosystem": they try to eat everything they can. Sometimes they're unsuccessful and they starve. Sometimes they're successful and cause a local shortage of prey and then they starve. Yaaaaaaaaaaay.)