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I think given the specifications of these devices, the pricing, while definitely high, is not completely unreasonable for what the hardware can do - these iPads
by giobox 8y ago
I think given the specifications of these devices, the pricing, while definitely high, is not completely unreasonable for what the hardware can do - these iPads do things no currently shipping Mac notebook can - 120hz refresh, 240hz touch/pen tracking, FaceID, performance in similar ballpark to a $3k MacBook Pro while passively cooled (!) etc etc.
It’s just such a shame iOS isn’t quite ready yet to provide the kind of computing experience the hardware is clearly capable enough to deliver. If this is going to be priced like a macOS machine, it needs to offer a reasonable set of Mac style functionality - for me this means proper multi-user support so my family can all use the device with their own accounts and services and ideally some kind of windowing model for the OS to better handle multi-tasking.
iOS will need to answer a lot of questions in the next few years that it has so far steadfastly avoided. Apple bragged how these iPads can drive 5k monitors via an Xbox one S performance class GPU, but without indirect input methods (e.g. a mouse) this feature is really not much use for anything other than display mirroring. Today I only ever use video out on iOS devices for occasional video playback on TVs, I suspect I’m not alone in this.
iOS will likely either need to support a mouse or Apple will have to create some kind of standard for multi-touch external monitors that can allow iOS application input via touch on the external display if professional class workflows using multiple monitors on iOS is ever going to be a mainstream thing the way it is on the Mac.
- criddell 8y agoI'd be surprised if Apple ever does more than the current two-window model. A multi-user feature would certainly be nice though. I think iOS is mostly fine. I don't think it's supposed to be a macOS replacement. There are some things a Mac is better for and other things an iPad is better for. Apple wants you to have both.
- snazz 8y agoYou can actually kind of fit three windows on an iPad: two in Split View and another one on top in Slide Over. Even if you can’t interact with the background windows when Slide Over is active, they continue to refresh their contents.
- saagarjha 8y agoFun fact: I believe you used to be able to interact with the split viewed apps in early betas of iOS, but then the feature was removed and restricted to only when you had one app open.
- ncw96 8y agoYou can interact with two Split View apps and one Slide Over app at the same time, but this is limited to newer models (I believe 2017 iPad Pro or newer). If you are on an older iPad, it is as you describe.
- saagarjha 8y agoYes, but this used to be enabled for all iPads. The feature was then removed, probably because older ones just couldn't keep all the apps running reliably.
- jbigelow76 8y agoI think given the specifications of these devices, the pricing, while definitely high, is not completely unreasonable for what the hardware can do - these iPads do things no currently shipping Mac notebook can - 120hz refresh, 240hz touch/pen tracking, FaceID, performance in similar ballpark to a $3k MacBook Pro while passively cooled (!) etc etc. Totally agree, and if they had XCode or a decent native C# IDE on there I'd be at an Apple store right now forking over fist fulls of cash.
- pjmlp 8y agoRegarding C#, https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/continuous-net-c-and-f-ide/id1095213378?mt=8 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/continuous-net-c-and-f-ide/i...
- judge2020 8y agoWouldn't be surprised to see an ARM build of MacOS with new mac models on the A12+ chips.