4 ms·
Maybe, if they actually had to get a warrant. My understanding is that they don't need to do this for street cameras because there's no expectation of privacy i
by 0xcde4c3db 8y ago
Maybe, if they actually had to get a warrant. My understanding is that they don't need to do this for street cameras because there's no expectation of privacy in public spaces. But before massive camera deployments there was also an unstated expectation that there was some kind of cost to collect information on any particular person.
Still, one of the things to keep in mind about mass surveillance (or mass censorship) is that once the apparatus is built, policy can be changed relatively cheaply. And it's highly unlikely that law enforcement agencies are buying equipment that requires configuration changes to be signed by a court's or legislature's private key.
- DenisM 8y agoWe have managed to keep due process alive and well for hundreds of years without cryptographic signatures.
- AlexCoventry 8y agoDue process was looking pretty anemic if you were black or left-wing in the 50s and 60s.
- jakelazaroff 8y agoDue process looks pretty anemic if you're black today.
- cestith 8y agoI'd say it looks anemic even if you're a middle class, middle aged white male. It's weaker if you're young, or black, or brown, or female. It's damn near dead if you're a young black male or appear vaguely Arabic.
- int_19h 8y agoYou can even be rich and politically affluent. I mean, this was "due process", warrants and everything: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berwyn_Heights,_Maryland_mayor%27s_residence_drug_raid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berwyn_Heights,_Maryland_mayor...
- AlexCoventry 8y agoTrue, but if there's anything today on the scale and invasiveness of COINTELPRO, it's not public knowledge.
- wnoise 8y agoCOINTELPRO wasn't public knowledge at the time, and many massive surveillance systems operating recently and today are known, e.g. PRISM.
- freyir 8y agoGood thing we leave officers to rely on their intuitions, their biases, and secondhand accounts, instead of video evidence.
- danso 8y agoOur past laws and conventions — such as the third party doctrine — have not yet caught up to the digital age, and if due process has been preserved it’s because of strenuous and constant pushback from civil rights advocates, against far smaller proposals than a vast always-on surveillance apparatus