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That's really how I feel here. Just a cost. He tells me he has to justify our "team"'s existance to his dad whenever he sees him. The graphic designer does all

That's really how I feel here. Just a cost. He tells me he has to justify our "team"'s existance to his dad whenever he sees him. The graphic designer does all print and web graphic design, The Marketing manager does all copy, liaises with the print firms and manages marketing targets and plans with all the dealerships group wide, I do all the web stuff. If there's a car dealership that doesn't need to market or advertise to people to sell cars, I haven't seen it.

davidw 16y ago
> If there's a car dealership that doesn't need to market or advertise to people to sell cars, I haven't seen it. Ok, but you're never really going to be the "star of the show" like the sales guys are. That's why I suggested finding an alternative industry where they're happier to have a developer on board.
dugmartin 16y ago
In a sales organization if you aren't a salesperson you are seen as a cost center. If you want to get their respect build some web only promotions and tell your boss you want a cut of the commission of every car sold through them or even better handle the sale yourself and take all the commission.
Robin_Message 16y ago
> He tells me he has to justify our "team"'s existance to his dad whenever he sees him. Okay, so I don't want to go off at the deep end here, but I think the general consensus is correct: this isn't healthy and you're best bet is to leave. It seems to me that his dad bullies him and he in turn bullies you. Also, if they really thought you don't add value to the company, they would fire you. Clearly you do, so they are just jerking your chain and making you feel dependant on them. They are lying. They have you in what has been called a sick system [1]. [1] http://issendai.livejournal.com/572510.html http://issendai.livejournal.com/572510.html
edruk01 16y ago
I've got a couple of car related websites that I'm planning to build soon, and having a web dev with some domain knowledge of the car industry in the UK would be really useful. If you're interested pop me an email and we can discuss further.

davidw 16y ago

> If there's a car dealership that doesn't need to market or advertise to people to sell cars, I haven't seen it. Ok, but you're never really going to be the "star of the show" like the sales guys are. That's why I suggested finding an alternative industry where they're happier to have a developer on board.

dugmartin 16y ago

In a sales organization if you aren't a salesperson you are seen as a cost center. If you want to get their respect build some web only promotions and tell your boss you want a cut of the commission of every car sold through them or even better handle the sale yourself and take all the commission.

Robin_Message 16y ago

> He tells me he has to justify our "team"'s existance to his dad whenever he sees him. Okay, so I don't want to go off at the deep end here, but I think the general consensus is correct: this isn't healthy and you're best bet is to leave. It seems to me that his dad bullies him and he in turn bullies you. Also, if they really thought you don't add value to the company, they would fire you. Clearly you do, so they are just jerking your chain and making you feel dependant on them. They are lying. They have you in what has been called a sick system [1]. [1] http://issendai.livejournal.com/572510.html http://issendai.livejournal.com/572510.html

edruk01 16y ago

I've got a couple of car related websites that I'm planning to build soon, and having a web dev with some domain knowledge of the car industry in the UK would be really useful. If you're interested pop me an email and we can discuss further.