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I was issued a Mac Air by my employer. OSX feels like an operating system for children. If this was in effect then, I would have just put the computer on the sh

I was issued a Mac Air by my employer. OSX feels like an operating system for children. If this was in effect then, I would have just put the computer on the shelf as the toy it is.

HatchedLake721 8y ago
For children, really? And Linux is for grown up adults with beards?
scarface74 8y ago
OS X is real certified Unix. What can’t you do with OS X that you could do with Linux?
- claudius 8y ago
  Install a compiler without an Apple account?
  - scarface74 8y ago
    Why would you need an Apple account to install any other compiler besides XCode - something you wouldn’t be doing with Linux?
    - claudius 8y ago
      There's no pre-installed compilers on it (at least as of 2013) and Homebrew needed me to install XCode first before it could do anything. Admittedly I stopped looking into it and just shelfed the laptop until requesting a saner one.
      - scarface74 8y ago
        Which compilers?
        claudius 8y ago
        Well, none? To install GCC, Homebrew wanted me to install XCode first. That’s when I gave up because nothing was installed there by default except for an outdated Bash.
        scarface74 8y ago
        http://osxdaily.com/2014/02/12/install-command-line-tools-mac-os-x/ http://osxdaily.com/2014/02/12/install-command-line-tools-ma... But more to the point. Even if you didn’t know about that option you gave up because you didn’t want to sign up for a free account?
- moondev 8y ago
  off the top of my head: * run containers natively * customize / swap out the window manager/display manager * run kvm virtual machines * desktop fractional scaling
  - scarface74 8y ago
    What do you get from KVM virtual machines that you don’t get from the various products available from the Mac - VMWare, Parallels, Virtual Box.
    - moondev 8y ago
      Run virtual machines in a more performant efficient manner. Not needing to pay the licensing fees for vmware, parallells Not needing to use a buggier hypervisor/manager such as virtualbox Leverage qemu and all of it's benefits at full speed, such as emulating ARM devices
      - scarface74 8y ago
        Qemu. https://wiki.qemu.org/Hosts/Mac https://wiki.qemu.org/Hosts/Mac
        moondev 8y ago
        I said run qemu at full speed, which requires kvm, which requires linux.
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      - scarface74 8y ago
        Not needing to pay the licensing fees for vmware, parallells So you’re okay with paying at least $800 for the cheapest Mac that Apple sells, but my development Mac would at least be $1100 - $2000, but you don’t want to spend $79 on Parallel Fusion?

I was issued a Mac Air by my employer. OSX feels like an operating system for children. If this was in effect then, I would have just put the computer on the shelf as the toy it is.

HatchedLake721 8y ago

For children, really? And Linux is for grown up adults with beards?

scarface74 8y ago

OS X is real certified Unix. What can’t you do with OS X that you could do with Linux?

claudius 8y ago
Install a compiler without an Apple account?
- scarface74 8y ago
  Why would you need an Apple account to install any other compiler besides XCode - something you wouldn’t be doing with Linux?
  - claudius 8y ago
    There's no pre-installed compilers on it (at least as of 2013) and Homebrew needed me to install XCode first before it could do anything. Admittedly I stopped looking into it and just shelfed the laptop until requesting a saner one.
    - scarface74 8y ago
      Which compilers?
      - claudius 8y ago
        Well, none? To install GCC, Homebrew wanted me to install XCode first. That’s when I gave up because nothing was installed there by default except for an outdated Bash.
        scarface74 8y ago
        http://osxdaily.com/2014/02/12/install-command-line-tools-mac-os-x/ http://osxdaily.com/2014/02/12/install-command-line-tools-ma... But more to the point. Even if you didn’t know about that option you gave up because you didn’t want to sign up for a free account?
moondev 8y ago
off the top of my head: * run containers natively * customize / swap out the window manager/display manager * run kvm virtual machines * desktop fractional scaling
- scarface74 8y ago
  What do you get from KVM virtual machines that you don’t get from the various products available from the Mac - VMWare, Parallels, Virtual Box.
  - moondev 8y ago
    Run virtual machines in a more performant efficient manner. Not needing to pay the licensing fees for vmware, parallells Not needing to use a buggier hypervisor/manager such as virtualbox Leverage qemu and all of it's benefits at full speed, such as emulating ARM devices
    - scarface74 8y ago
      Qemu. https://wiki.qemu.org/Hosts/Mac https://wiki.qemu.org/Hosts/Mac
      - moondev 8y ago
        I said run qemu at full speed, which requires kvm, which requires linux.
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    - scarface74 8y ago
      Not needing to pay the licensing fees for vmware, parallells So you’re okay with paying at least $800 for the cheapest Mac that Apple sells, but my development Mac would at least be $1100 - $2000, but you don’t want to spend $79 on Parallel Fusion?