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Sooooooo... I did a little bit of digging here. 3 studies: ------------------- 1st study about Vitamin D https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01169259 http

Sooooooo... I did a little bit of digging here. 3 studies: ------------------- 1st study about Vitamin D https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01169259 https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01169259 2nd study about fish oil with a low dose, 1 gram https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01169259 https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01169259 3rd study about a PROPRIETARY PRESCRIPTION variation of fish oil with a HIGH DOSE https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/record/NCT01492361 https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/record/NCT01492361 Results: --------------------- 1st study - no effect. 2nd study - no effect. 3rd study - "REMARKABLE degree of risk reduction". The researchers are different but the HOSPITAL that conducted them is the same. The HOSPITAL posted about BOTH studies at the same time (today): https://www.brighamandwomens.org/about-bwh/newsroom/press-releases-detail?id=3189 https://www.brighamandwomens.org/about-bwh/newsroom/press-re... https://www.brighamandwomens.org/about-bwh/newsroom/press-releases-detail?id=3190 https://www.brighamandwomens.org/about-bwh/newsroom/press-re... IMHO, something smells a little bit ... FISHY in here LOL. Amarin is a one-product medical "startup" trying to show that their fish oil variation works. Oh, they are also publicly traded. Their stock went up after this announcement. It has also 10x-ed this year. They are also trying to convince the FDA that it "works". My opinion? Total fraudsters.

albedoa 8y ago
It is unclear what your suspicions are. You capitalized a bunch of words and concluded with "Total fraudsters". Can you tell us your specific issues with the studies?
- raspasov 8y ago
  See my other comments in the thread, the Forbes article quoting a few other cardiologists from other major universities. Google around about the company and their drug Vascepa. Many people are skeptical about it and IMHO they have a point. Vascepa an extract from fish oil but is... prescription? Why? So they can extract hundreds of dollars from programs like Medicare when your doctor writes you a prescription about it. Vascepa does not seem to be any better than regular over-the-counter fish oil.
joveian 8y ago
Good catch and a good reason to be suspicious. The D-Health study in Austrialia will be done in a couple of years and is a similar size just looking at vitamin D, so we can see then if the results match. That is a large monthly dose so not exactly the same thing. Also, vitamin D studies seem to very often get contradictory results and I don't know if the reasons for that have been figured out. Not directly related to this study, but one oddity with vitamin D for anyone who had done testing is that the most common tests undercount D2 and fortified products and many supplements use D2. Establishing an Accuracy Basis for the Vitamin D External Quality Assessment Scheme (DEQAS). Burdette et al. 2017. [pdf] http://www.ingentaconnect.com/contentone/aoac/jaoac/2017/00000100/00000005/art00008?crawler=true&mimetype=application/pdf http://www.ingentaconnect.com/contentone/aoac/jaoac/2017/000...
113 8y ago
It always surprises me the amount of woo commenters here are willing to swallow.

albedoa 8y ago

It is unclear what your suspicions are. You capitalized a bunch of words and concluded with "Total fraudsters". Can you tell us your specific issues with the studies?

raspasov 8y ago
See my other comments in the thread, the Forbes article quoting a few other cardiologists from other major universities. Google around about the company and their drug Vascepa. Many people are skeptical about it and IMHO they have a point. Vascepa an extract from fish oil but is... prescription? Why? So they can extract hundreds of dollars from programs like Medicare when your doctor writes you a prescription about it. Vascepa does not seem to be any better than regular over-the-counter fish oil.

joveian 8y ago

Good catch and a good reason to be suspicious. The D-Health study in Austrialia will be done in a couple of years and is a similar size just looking at vitamin D, so we can see then if the results match. That is a large monthly dose so not exactly the same thing. Also, vitamin D studies seem to very often get contradictory results and I don't know if the reasons for that have been figured out. Not directly related to this study, but one oddity with vitamin D for anyone who had done testing is that the most common tests undercount D2 and fortified products and many supplements use D2. Establishing an Accuracy Basis for the Vitamin D External Quality Assessment Scheme (DEQAS). Burdette et al. 2017. [pdf] http://www.ingentaconnect.com/contentone/aoac/jaoac/2017/00000100/00000005/art00008?crawler=true&mimetype=application/pdf http://www.ingentaconnect.com/contentone/aoac/jaoac/2017/000...

113 8y ago

It always surprises me the amount of woo commenters here are willing to swallow.