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Show me a randomized control study of healthy people with lower all cause mortality from either diet or exercise, and I'll gladly change my ways.

• dawhizkid 8y ago
  Nutrition studies are very difficult, which is exactly how we get to a place where governments are pushing food pyramids telling everyone to eat mostly carbs everyday. I won't show you anything, other than articulating that I genuinely believe sugar is toxic, we should be eating fewer carbs, intermittent fasting makes me feel better, and 3 meals a day is unnecessary.
• ip26 8y ago
  This comes across like the people who say, show me incontrovertible proof God does not exist and I will happily become an atheist. Knowing, of course, it cannot be proven. If you are actually of open mind, there are some natural experiments that have been done, e.g. see Blue Zones.
• lhl 8y ago
  One of the largest observational studies done, the PURE study (large, epidemiological cohort study of individuals aged 35-70 years (enrolled between Jan 1, 2003, and March 31, 2013) in 18 countries with a median follow-up of 7·4 years (IQR 5·3-9·3). Dietary intake of 135 335 individuals was recorded using validated food frequency questionnaires) includes statistically significant all-cause mortality data and is the best controlled for study yet. Here are the abstract results: Higher carbohydrate intake was associated with an increased risk of total mortality (highest [quintile 5] vs lowest quintile [quintile 1] category, HR 1·28 [95% CI 1·12-1·46], ptrend=0·0001) but not with the risk of cardiovascular disease or cardiovascular disease mortality. Intake of total fat and each type of fat was associated with lower risk of total mortality (quintile 5 vs quintile 1, total fat: HR 0·77 [95% CI 0·67-0·87], ptrend<0·0001; saturated fat, HR 0·86 [0·76-0·99], ptrend=0·0088; monounsaturated fat: HR 0·81 [0·71-0·92], ptrend<0·0001; and polyunsaturated fat: HR 0·80 [0·71-0·89], ptrend<0·0001). Higher saturated fat intake was associated with lower risk of stroke (quintile 5 vs quintile 1, HR 0·79 [95% CI 0·64-0·98], ptrend=0·0498). Total fat and saturated and unsaturated fats were not significantly associated with risk of myocardial infarction or cardiovascular disease mortality. INTERPRETATION: High carbohydrate intake was associated with higher risk of total mortality, whereas total fat and individual types of fat were related to lower total mortality. Total fat and types of fat were not associated with cardiovascular disease, myocardial infarction, or cardiovascular disease mortality, whereas saturated fat had an inverse association with stroke. Global dietary guidelines should be reconsidered in light of these findings. doi: 10.1016/S0140-6736(17)32252-3 See also: 10.1016/S0140-6736(18)31812-9 If your primary interest is in longevity, IMO your best bet is to eat less often: 10.1016/j.cmet.2014.02.006 10.1111/j.1474-9726.2012.00798.x 10.1126/science.1172539 10.1016/j.cell.2015.02.020 10.1111/acel.12338 10.1097/MCO.0000000000000239 10.1016/j.arr.2006.04.002 Also, exercise isn't bad either: 10.1371/journal.pone.0000465
• Zarath 8y ago
  Stop. Is this really how far we've come with science worship? You can take some things for granted.