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> Lenovo makes modular laptops and sells more laptops than Apple. But the reason most people choose Lenovo over Apple is not modularity, it’s cheaper price. T

by usaphp 8y ago

> Lenovo makes modular laptops and sells more laptops than Apple. But the reason most people choose Lenovo over Apple is not modularity, it’s cheaper price. Toyota sells more cars than Rolls Royce’s, it does not mean that people buy Toyota because they think it’s better quality than Rolls Royce

SyneRyder 8y ago
There's always going to be that one guy, but here I am ;) I've been a Mac user since 2006 & own 4 MacBooks, but I just ordered a Lenovo X1 Thinkpad because I'm sure it has to be better quality than the last MacBook Pro I bought. That MBP is a completely unreliable lemon, it's been serviced by the Apple Store 5 times. And when I hear friends complain of broken keyboards, failing SATA cables, and now failing SSDs on their Macs, I just can't trust Apple laptops anymore. The deciding factor for me was Lenovo's replaceable SSD, which meant I could upgrade it to more storage than a Surface Book 2 (so modularity was important). The fact that the Thinkpad was $1500 cheaper was just icing on the cake, not the deciding factor. I also thought the Thinkpad was likely to be less fragile than a Surface Book 2. But I do agree the majority of Lenovo's unit sales are probably their awful cheap consumer line that sells in the $400 range, not $3000 Thinkpads.
- lnz1 8y ago
  Get ready to be disappointed then :) I bought an X1 less than 2 months ago (after 8 years of MacBooks) for the same reason: it _has_ to be better quality. I take extremely good care of my laptops, but nonetheless after 3 weeks the screen was scratched, because when it's closed the lid pushes against the keyboard leaving marks (and eventually scratches) on the glossy HDR display. Also the lid doesn't close properly [0] on one side, which just drives me crazy. For a $2000 laptop, I am pretty disappointed. [0] https://mensfeld.pl/2018/07/lenovo-thinkpad-x1-carbon-6th-gen-2018-review-sad-story-of-a-potentially-great-ultrabook/#not-aligned-lid-lid-not-closing-properly https://mensfeld.pl/2018/07/lenovo-thinkpad-x1-carbon-6th-ge...
AnthonyMouse 8y ago
> But the reason most people choose Lenovo over Apple is not modularity, it’s cheaper price. Two can play at this game. "But the reason some people choose Apple over Lenovo is not lack of modularity, it's ability to run macOS." It's trying to make the original claim untouchable by discounting diverse evidence with a monolithic justification, even though that doesn't account for everyone, and on net may even make the original claim weaker when all such things are considered. Also, many of Lenovo's products are the same price as Apple's, and they still sell really well.

by usaphp 8y ago

SyneRyder 8y ago

There's always going to be that one guy, but here I am ;) I've been a Mac user since 2006 & own 4 MacBooks, but I just ordered a Lenovo X1 Thinkpad because I'm sure it has to be better quality than the last MacBook Pro I bought. That MBP is a completely unreliable lemon, it's been serviced by the Apple Store 5 times. And when I hear friends complain of broken keyboards, failing SATA cables, and now failing SSDs on their Macs, I just can't trust Apple laptops anymore. The deciding factor for me was Lenovo's replaceable SSD, which meant I could upgrade it to more storage than a Surface Book 2 (so modularity was important). The fact that the Thinkpad was $1500 cheaper was just icing on the cake, not the deciding factor. I also thought the Thinkpad was likely to be less fragile than a Surface Book 2. But I do agree the majority of Lenovo's unit sales are probably their awful cheap consumer line that sells in the $400 range, not $3000 Thinkpads.

lnz1 8y ago
Get ready to be disappointed then :) I bought an X1 less than 2 months ago (after 8 years of MacBooks) for the same reason: it _has_ to be better quality. I take extremely good care of my laptops, but nonetheless after 3 weeks the screen was scratched, because when it's closed the lid pushes against the keyboard leaving marks (and eventually scratches) on the glossy HDR display. Also the lid doesn't close properly [0] on one side, which just drives me crazy. For a $2000 laptop, I am pretty disappointed. [0] https://mensfeld.pl/2018/07/lenovo-thinkpad-x1-carbon-6th-gen-2018-review-sad-story-of-a-potentially-great-ultrabook/#not-aligned-lid-lid-not-closing-properly https://mensfeld.pl/2018/07/lenovo-thinkpad-x1-carbon-6th-ge...

AnthonyMouse 8y ago

> But the reason most people choose Lenovo over Apple is not modularity, it’s cheaper price. Two can play at this game. "But the reason some people choose Apple over Lenovo is not lack of modularity, it's ability to run macOS." It's trying to make the original claim untouchable by discounting diverse evidence with a monolithic justification, even though that doesn't account for everyone, and on net may even make the original claim weaker when all such things are considered. Also, many of Lenovo's products are the same price as Apple's, and they still sell really well.