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Smartphones today.

by gsich 8y ago

Smartphones today.

kadendogthing 8y ago
Really? I think the smart phones we have are pretty brilliant and functional.
- geezerjay 8y ago
  Noot being able to upgrade the OS is a glaring design problem, so there's still work to be done.
  - kadendogthing 8y ago
    I upgrade my OS all the time.
- reshie 8y ago
  pretty much. nothing can be perfect for everyone. we still have room for advancement and refinement though and who knows of future breakthroughs.
- picsao 8y ago
  Seems you accidently hit the bugbye-button and dropped out midsentence. What good is it if you are a industries shillbilly and still have to use the same crappy hardware as the rest of us.
chrismcb 8y ago
Smart phones today have a long way to go before they come even close to perfect
- gsich 8y ago
  You can already see that manufacturers have a hard time to come up with new features. Stuff like thinner devices (nobody cares or wants this to a certain degree, compared to a better battery life), 3+ cameras, notches because for some reason you can't integrate speakers behind the display. "AI" stuff that doesn't work when you're offline. I would trade all this shit for a week battery time. So yes, while smartphones are not perfect, I see no intentions from developers to fix that.
  - kadendogthing 8y ago
    >nobody cares or wants this to a certain degree, compared to a better battery life Then why do consumers constantly praise thinner phones, and continue to purchase them? I think you're mistaking what you want and consider a good choice compared to what everyone else actually wants and is willing to support.
    - Hextinium 8y ago
      The purchasing of the new best thing can also be the case, take for example that there hasn't been a flagship phone that actually fits in most peoples single hand since the SE and yet I know lots of people that will just "buy the next Iphone" because thats what they have done for 5 years with no consideration for ergonomics.
      - kadendogthing 8y ago
        >take for example that there hasn't been a flagship phone that actually fits in most peoples single hand since the SE Both my iPhone and Pixel 3 fit my hand. I'm 5'6.
    - gsich 8y ago
      Because there is no alternative. It's not legit to say "people like thin smartphones more" when you are only making thin ones. Same for the headphone jack.
      - kadendogthing 8y ago
        There are plenty of alternatives? In what market are there no alternatives to thin phones?
    - NeedMoreTea 8y ago
      Do they? I inhabit a very different bubble then as I've only heard complaints amongst my friends and workmates lately. Even formerly enthusiastic ones. It reminds me of the 80s ghetto blasters fad. Size was the thing. As they got ever bigger they got far worse as there was so much resonant empty plastic and they distorted and rattled madly with volume anywhere over 2. Size and LEDs counted above all. Sound? LOL look at these LEDs man. Most recent changes, from all manufacturers, have been deliberately consumer hostile. There's not much left to actually innovate with. Consumers don't want to keep swapping ecosystems - as that means hassle and re-buying a bunch of apps. Often they'd prefer not to even switch manufacturers if they've ended up using a cloud app for photos or something. So they just buy the next iThing from whoever even if it is too big, or is anti case because of edge to edge screens, or has a fake notch. Talk about Emperor's new clothes. So what can I choose that's against this trend? Oh. Nothing. Yet I need a phone, and probably an app or two for work. Best buy something or risk job loss. Even if I detest all the offerings as too big for any pocket I possess. In your eyes it's a vote for thinner or bigger because a sale was made. No that's not how it works. It's not a simple commodity with only one feature to make, break, and validate the sale. To vote by not purchasing I'd have to cease having a mobile.

Smartphones today.

by gsich 8y ago

Smartphones today.

kadendogthing 8y ago

Really? I think the smart phones we have are pretty brilliant and functional.

geezerjay 8y ago
Noot being able to upgrade the OS is a glaring design problem, so there's still work to be done.
- kadendogthing 8y ago
  I upgrade my OS all the time.
reshie 8y ago
pretty much. nothing can be perfect for everyone. we still have room for advancement and refinement though and who knows of future breakthroughs.
picsao 8y ago
Seems you accidently hit the bugbye-button and dropped out midsentence. What good is it if you are a industries shillbilly and still have to use the same crappy hardware as the rest of us.

chrismcb 8y ago

Smart phones today have a long way to go before they come even close to perfect

gsich 8y ago
You can already see that manufacturers have a hard time to come up with new features. Stuff like thinner devices (nobody cares or wants this to a certain degree, compared to a better battery life), 3+ cameras, notches because for some reason you can't integrate speakers behind the display. "AI" stuff that doesn't work when you're offline. I would trade all this shit for a week battery time. So yes, while smartphones are not perfect, I see no intentions from developers to fix that.
- kadendogthing 8y ago
  >nobody cares or wants this to a certain degree, compared to a better battery life Then why do consumers constantly praise thinner phones, and continue to purchase them? I think you're mistaking what you want and consider a good choice compared to what everyone else actually wants and is willing to support.
  - Hextinium 8y ago
    The purchasing of the new best thing can also be the case, take for example that there hasn't been a flagship phone that actually fits in most peoples single hand since the SE and yet I know lots of people that will just "buy the next Iphone" because thats what they have done for 5 years with no consideration for ergonomics.
    - kadendogthing 8y ago
      >take for example that there hasn't been a flagship phone that actually fits in most peoples single hand since the SE Both my iPhone and Pixel 3 fit my hand. I'm 5'6.
  - gsich 8y ago
    Because there is no alternative. It's not legit to say "people like thin smartphones more" when you are only making thin ones. Same for the headphone jack.
    - kadendogthing 8y ago
      There are plenty of alternatives? In what market are there no alternatives to thin phones?
  - NeedMoreTea 8y ago
    Do they? I inhabit a very different bubble then as I've only heard complaints amongst my friends and workmates lately. Even formerly enthusiastic ones. It reminds me of the 80s ghetto blasters fad. Size was the thing. As they got ever bigger they got far worse as there was so much resonant empty plastic and they distorted and rattled madly with volume anywhere over 2. Size and LEDs counted above all. Sound? LOL look at these LEDs man. Most recent changes, from all manufacturers, have been deliberately consumer hostile. There's not much left to actually innovate with. Consumers don't want to keep swapping ecosystems - as that means hassle and re-buying a bunch of apps. Often they'd prefer not to even switch manufacturers if they've ended up using a cloud app for photos or something. So they just buy the next iThing from whoever even if it is too big, or is anti case because of edge to edge screens, or has a fake notch. Talk about Emperor's new clothes. So what can I choose that's against this trend? Oh. Nothing. Yet I need a phone, and probably an app or two for work. Best buy something or risk job loss. Even if I detest all the offerings as too big for any pocket I possess. In your eyes it's a vote for thinner or bigger because a sale was made. No that's not how it works. It's not a simple commodity with only one feature to make, break, and validate the sale. To vote by not purchasing I'd have to cease having a mobile.