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I've noticed this with mature technology. There comes a point where a product is perfect, no need to add anymore features. But the manufacturer still wants to c

I've noticed this with mature technology. There comes a point where a product is perfect, no need to add anymore features. But the manufacturer still wants to continue adding new features so that they can use those as new selling points. Unfortunately the new features end up making the product worse.

gsich 8y ago
Smartphones today.
- kadendogthing 8y ago
  Really? I think the smart phones we have are pretty brilliant and functional.
  - geezerjay 8y ago
    Noot being able to upgrade the OS is a glaring design problem, so there's still work to be done.
    - kadendogthing 8y ago
      I upgrade my OS all the time.
  - reshie 8y ago
    pretty much. nothing can be perfect for everyone. we still have room for advancement and refinement though and who knows of future breakthroughs.
  - picsao 8y ago
    Seems you accidently hit the bugbye-button and dropped out midsentence. What good is it if you are a industries shillbilly and still have to use the same crappy hardware as the rest of us.
- chrismcb 8y ago
  Smart phones today have a long way to go before they come even close to perfect
  - gsich 8y ago
    You can already see that manufacturers have a hard time to come up with new features. Stuff like thinner devices (nobody cares or wants this to a certain degree, compared to a better battery life), 3+ cameras, notches because for some reason you can't integrate speakers behind the display. "AI" stuff that doesn't work when you're offline. I would trade all this shit for a week battery time. So yes, while smartphones are not perfect, I see no intentions from developers to fix that.
    - kadendogthing 8y ago
      >nobody cares or wants this to a certain degree, compared to a better battery life Then why do consumers constantly praise thinner phones, and continue to purchase them? I think you're mistaking what you want and consider a good choice compared to what everyone else actually wants and is willing to support.
      - Hextinium 8y ago
        The purchasing of the new best thing can also be the case, take for example that there hasn't been a flagship phone that actually fits in most peoples single hand since the SE and yet I know lots of people that will just "buy the next Iphone" because thats what they have done for 5 years with no consideration for ergonomics.
        kadendogthing 8y ago
        >take for example that there hasn't been a flagship phone that actually fits in most peoples single hand since the SE Both my iPhone and Pixel 3 fit my hand. I'm 5'6.
      - gsich 8y ago
        Because there is no alternative. It's not legit to say "people like thin smartphones more" when you are only making thin ones. Same for the headphone jack.
Camillo 8y ago
2015 MacBook Pro was the peak for laptops.
- kps 8y ago
  2009 was the last time they sold a 17″ version.
  - NateEag 8y ago
    2011, actually. I still use one. I still wish they had produced a 17" with dual video outputs.
- fouc 8y ago
  Except for the fact that you can't easily upgrade the ram or ssd? :P
x0 8y ago
Nobody's happy with keeping things how they are anymore, unfortunately. Got to keep moving fast and keep breaking things, no matter how well they worked. Not introducing new features feels like stagnation to investors and shareholders.
Lio 8y ago
You mean like an electric toothbrush with Bluetooth? I’d love to have been in the design meeting where thry decided that was more important than world voltage compatibility. “World voltage are you mad? Who packs a toothbrush when they go travelling? Nope, what the people are clamering for is bluetooth support!”
- rahimnathwani 8y ago
  Lack of world voltage is probably deliberate. Braun/Oral-B toothbrushes are usually cheaper in the US than in other countries (e.g. the UK) that use 220/240V. The UK-bought toothbrushes will work fine in the US. I've had one US-bought base unit fail and, given the simplicity of the device (just coils for transforming voltage and induction charging) I'm assuming it's due to being plugged in to a 220V outlet for an extended period.
- kraftomatic 8y ago
  My toothbrush has a usb charger which I just use for travelling. Actually really handy as its just a cord so much smaller than a regular charger.
speedplane 8y ago
What product has ever been perfect?
- sh87 8y ago
  Almost anything that does one thing and does it well.
tx21 8y ago
sounds like the iphone for the last 5 years

gsich 8y ago

Smartphones today.

kadendogthing 8y ago
Really? I think the smart phones we have are pretty brilliant and functional.
- geezerjay 8y ago
  Noot being able to upgrade the OS is a glaring design problem, so there's still work to be done.
  - kadendogthing 8y ago
    I upgrade my OS all the time.
- reshie 8y ago
  pretty much. nothing can be perfect for everyone. we still have room for advancement and refinement though and who knows of future breakthroughs.
- picsao 8y ago
  Seems you accidently hit the bugbye-button and dropped out midsentence. What good is it if you are a industries shillbilly and still have to use the same crappy hardware as the rest of us.
chrismcb 8y ago
Smart phones today have a long way to go before they come even close to perfect
- gsich 8y ago
  You can already see that manufacturers have a hard time to come up with new features. Stuff like thinner devices (nobody cares or wants this to a certain degree, compared to a better battery life), 3+ cameras, notches because for some reason you can't integrate speakers behind the display. "AI" stuff that doesn't work when you're offline. I would trade all this shit for a week battery time. So yes, while smartphones are not perfect, I see no intentions from developers to fix that.
  - kadendogthing 8y ago
    >nobody cares or wants this to a certain degree, compared to a better battery life Then why do consumers constantly praise thinner phones, and continue to purchase them? I think you're mistaking what you want and consider a good choice compared to what everyone else actually wants and is willing to support.
    - Hextinium 8y ago
      The purchasing of the new best thing can also be the case, take for example that there hasn't been a flagship phone that actually fits in most peoples single hand since the SE and yet I know lots of people that will just "buy the next Iphone" because thats what they have done for 5 years with no consideration for ergonomics.
      - kadendogthing 8y ago
        >take for example that there hasn't been a flagship phone that actually fits in most peoples single hand since the SE Both my iPhone and Pixel 3 fit my hand. I'm 5'6.
    - gsich 8y ago
      Because there is no alternative. It's not legit to say "people like thin smartphones more" when you are only making thin ones. Same for the headphone jack.

Camillo 8y ago

2015 MacBook Pro was the peak for laptops.

kps 8y ago
2009 was the last time they sold a 17″ version.
- NateEag 8y ago
  2011, actually. I still use one. I still wish they had produced a 17" with dual video outputs.
fouc 8y ago
Except for the fact that you can't easily upgrade the ram or ssd? :P

x0 8y ago

Nobody's happy with keeping things how they are anymore, unfortunately. Got to keep moving fast and keep breaking things, no matter how well they worked. Not introducing new features feels like stagnation to investors and shareholders.

Lio 8y ago

You mean like an electric toothbrush with Bluetooth? I’d love to have been in the design meeting where thry decided that was more important than world voltage compatibility. “World voltage are you mad? Who packs a toothbrush when they go travelling? Nope, what the people are clamering for is bluetooth support!”

rahimnathwani 8y ago
Lack of world voltage is probably deliberate. Braun/Oral-B toothbrushes are usually cheaper in the US than in other countries (e.g. the UK) that use 220/240V. The UK-bought toothbrushes will work fine in the US. I've had one US-bought base unit fail and, given the simplicity of the device (just coils for transforming voltage and induction charging) I'm assuming it's due to being plugged in to a 220V outlet for an extended period.
kraftomatic 8y ago
My toothbrush has a usb charger which I just use for travelling. Actually really handy as its just a cord so much smaller than a regular charger.

speedplane 8y ago

What product has ever been perfect?

sh87 8y ago
Almost anything that does one thing and does it well.

tx21 8y ago

sounds like the iphone for the last 5 years