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I think this is a bit of a disingenuous comparison. That ThinkPad looks to be around the mid 1990s (maybe early 2000s?). Meanwhile, if you looked at a modern Th
by dethac 8y ago
I think this is a bit of a disingenuous comparison. That ThinkPad looks to be around the mid 1990s (maybe early 2000s?). Meanwhile, if you looked at a modern ThinkPad (regardless of your opinion on Lenovo as a company), the keyboard is still category-leading, the weight is almost identical to a MacBook in the same class, and the thickness likewise. Look at, say, the X1 Extreme.
Replaceable RAM and SSD. 4.06 pounds. The MBP 15" is 4.03 pounds.
Now, the keyboard definitely isn't as good as it was (RIP old keyboard, may you rest in peace), but it's definitely still very competitive.
- robotresearcher 8y agoWe agree. The fact that ThinkPads and MacBooks are both slim today suggests that people want slim laptops, contrary to the claim of the grandparent. That TP 340 I bought in 1994. It was a marvel for its time and much more affordable than the contemporaneous Mac: a more stylish brick like so: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/540c_open.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/540c_ope...
- blattimwind 8y agoThat's a Thinkpad 750 from 1993. Either way, arguing against "consumers don't really care about having the thinnest brick on the market" by invoking early 90s hardware by comparison is of course a B/S way of arguing things.
- robotresearcher 8y agoI was arguing against "Noone cares about thin laptops." That's a direct quote and different from yours. Not 'thinnest', but 'thin'. Since almost the laptops went thin, someone cared about it.
- rhizome 8y agoWow, the X1s have come a long way. Possibly the only non-Mac 15" with a tenkeyless right now.
- int_19h 8y agoX1 is 14". It's actually noticeably smaller than a MacBook Pro, other than thickness. MacBook is actually really bad in the keyboard department when you consider that it's 15" - it has tiny up/down arrows, and no PgUp/PgDown/Home/End. Which is a shame, since these all would easily fit if speakers went elsewhere, and the touchpad was just a wee bit smaller (I mean, seriously, does it really need to be bigger than a 6" smartphone?). For a productivity laptop, these are very weird trade-offs.
- rhizome 8y agoThinkpad X1 Extreme is 15.6" https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X1-Extreme/p/22TP2TXX1E1 https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/Thi...
- OxO4 8y agoActually, the Dell XPS 15 has a 15" screen and a tenkeyless keyboard as well.