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> The data on close-quarters constant second-hand smoke (working in bars, having a partner that smokes) is sketchy Okay, but the data on smoking is not sketchy
by eric_h 8y ago
> The data on close-quarters constant second-hand smoke (working in bars, having a partner that smokes) is sketchy
Okay, but the data on smoking is not sketchy at all, so it’s not a stretch to suggest that constant exposure to second hand smoke in a poorly ventilated environment is comparable to smoking. Unfortunately there’s no way to set up a classical controlled experiment to test that hypothesis ethically, so we have to make do with other experimental setups and data analysis.
We do have studies that assess the affects of air pollution in cities, so surely we can come up with some way of extrapolating, no?
> It's also a convenient piece of do-nothing legislation for local politicians to campaign on
Sure - cigarette smoke does not smell good to non-smokers so it’s an easy win these days since most people don’t smoke.
I’m just trying to come up with a way of legislating these things based on our best abilities to make conclusions based on data rather than feelings, but I feel as though the onslaught of information brought about by the internet is making it harder to disseminate the wheat while more disseminate the chaff. Not to mention all the ways one can make feelings look like data.
- cyphar 8y agoThere is a lot of evidence that second-hand smoking is harmful. [1] is a summary on this topic from 2006 and cites 194 papers. To describe the science on second-hand smoking to be anything other than solid is to simply lie about our knowledge on the health effects of smoking. To add to this, there is also significant evidence that SIDS is strongly correlated with parents who are smokers (and thus appears to be likely caused by smoking while pregnant, and second-hand smoke during infancy). [1]: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK44330/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK44330/