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If you'd rather make this about poor people, OK. Government benefits in the USA require ID. This is to keep somebody from getting the assistance that would be

by burfog 8y ago

If you'd rather make this about poor people, OK. Government benefits in the USA require ID. This is to keep somebody from getting the assistance that would be meant for more than one person. It's kind of like voting for more than one person actually. I guess you could claim that poor people don't get government assistance because of the ID requirements. Being unable to eat seems like a higher priority than being unable to vote.

cyphar 8y ago
There are several problems with voter ID laws. Here's a longer video synopsis of the issue[1]. 1. Usually voter ID laws don't allow all forms of ID. For instance, in Texas, you cannot use a school ID to vote but you can use a concealed carry permit -- why? Both are provided by government institutions. Most voter ID laws don't allow the same set of IDs that you need for a job. I'm pretty sure that the same is true for the IDs you need for government benefits. 2. 11% of Americans don't have drivers licenses. This breaks down to 8% white Americans and 25% black Americans (mostly because poor people have fewer drivers licenses and there are more poor black people than poor white people). Getting a drivers license takes several hours (which usually requires you to take time off work), paying a not-insignificant fee, and . Very few jobs require you to drive or have a drivers license, so why would you bother doing it? 3. There are several cases (such as in North Carolina) where their voter ID laws were ruled unconsititutional because they were specifically designed to disenfranchise black people by looking at the statistics of black voters (usually voting earlier, voting in-person more often, usually not having certain forms of ID) and restricting with "surgical precision" (according to the court ruling) their ability to vote. If new laws are being passed that add requirements for voting which are designed around the fact that statistically more black people don't fulfill, then those laws are discriminatory. There is already evidence that this is the case (as was seen in North Carolina). [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI25YYZURGk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI25YYZURGk

by burfog 8y ago

cyphar 8y ago

There are several problems with voter ID laws. Here's a longer video synopsis of the issue[1]. 1. Usually voter ID laws don't allow all forms of ID. For instance, in Texas, you cannot use a school ID to vote but you can use a concealed carry permit -- why? Both are provided by government institutions. Most voter ID laws don't allow the same set of IDs that you need for a job. I'm pretty sure that the same is true for the IDs you need for government benefits. 2. 11% of Americans don't have drivers licenses. This breaks down to 8% white Americans and 25% black Americans (mostly because poor people have fewer drivers licenses and there are more poor black people than poor white people). Getting a drivers license takes several hours (which usually requires you to take time off work), paying a not-insignificant fee, and . Very few jobs require you to drive or have a drivers license, so why would you bother doing it? 3. There are several cases (such as in North Carolina) where their voter ID laws were ruled unconsititutional because they were specifically designed to disenfranchise black people by looking at the statistics of black voters (usually voting earlier, voting in-person more often, usually not having certain forms of ID) and restricting with "surgical precision" (according to the court ruling) their ability to vote. If new laws are being passed that add requirements for voting which are designed around the fact that statistically more black people don't fulfill, then those laws are discriminatory. There is already evidence that this is the case (as was seen in North Carolina). [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI25YYZURGk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI25YYZURGk