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Not the users, but the developers. They are the one which were unable to be responsible about permissions.

syshum 8y ago
If a app seeks permissions to things you do not want it to have you then have the option to not install it. I do this all the time with many apps. It is up to the USER not apple to choose what software to install and run on their computing devices. Protecting people from themselves is what parents do, so clearly you look to Apple to be some kind of Parent protecting you from being unable to read the permission screen and think "do I want this app to have these permissions" I would not have a huge issue with this if apple has methods to side load, or use 3rd party app stores in addition to the "offical" one, but if you are going to prevent anyway for a person to install apps outside of the official store then you better be pretty open about the apps you take. Apples assault on personal freedom and choice is my biggest problem from their App store policies to their war on repair. Apple believes it should have full authority over the devices they sell, if they want that they should RENT them not sell them for $1,000
- Improvotter 8y ago
  You're entitled to your opinion, and I am to mine. But I don't want something tracking me in the background. If that is your business model, then you should've thought of a different one. I don't care whether you think that Apple is a protective parent or not, one protective parent please!
  - ThomPete 8y ago
    No no no, you go further here, you claim that people shouldnt even be able to get the service even if they wanted to, in other words you are not even recognizing the parents right to his opinion you also want to have a say in whether HE should be able to get it.
    - ryanwaggoner 8y ago
      My current perspective is that I don’t want the government rolling in to hammer ban things they don’t understand, but I don’t want to have to carefully evaluate every single app just in case they’re shady. Having the platforms that the apps live on compete with each other on a number of metrics, including privacy, seems like a great balance to me. If I think Apple got it wrong, there’s always Android.
      - ThomPete 8y ago
        "Every single app...." Unless you have some unusual high and crazy usage of new apps then this isn't the problem you try to make it. Rescue time isn't just some random app out there, they have a long track record. Calling that balance is quite puzzling. ". If I think Apple got it wrong, there’s always Android." Yeah just like if you are worried about privacy there is always the option of not using a phone at all. This is not an argument for anything.
        ryanwaggoner 8y ago
        No need to speculate about what the situation would be without Apple’s policies and review process. Just look at the dumpster fire that is the Android app market. To each their own. Feel free to cry for the government to come and save you every time a company does something you don’t like.
        ThomPete 8y ago
        Nice strawman, do you have more of those? Where did I say the government should do that? Try with some intellectual honesty next time. Rescuetime is not some new company it's an old company who actually provide real utility and have been on the Apple platform for a long time. One would think that balance was to look at the utility and reputation of that company.

If a app seeks permissions to things you do not want it to have you then have the option to not install it. I do this all the time with many apps. It is up to the USER not apple to choose what software to install and run on their computing devices. Protecting people from themselves is what parents do, so clearly you look to Apple to be some kind of Parent protecting you from being unable to read the permission screen and think "do I want this app to have these permissions" I would not have a huge issue with this if apple has methods to side load, or use 3rd party app stores in addition to the "offical" one, but if you are going to prevent anyway for a person to install apps outside of the official store then you better be pretty open about the apps you take. Apples assault on personal freedom and choice is my biggest problem from their App store policies to their war on repair. Apple believes it should have full authority over the devices they sell, if they want that they should RENT them not sell them for $1,000

Improvotter 8y ago
You're entitled to your opinion, and I am to mine. But I don't want something tracking me in the background. If that is your business model, then you should've thought of a different one. I don't care whether you think that Apple is a protective parent or not, one protective parent please!
- ThomPete 8y ago
  No no no, you go further here, you claim that people shouldnt even be able to get the service even if they wanted to, in other words you are not even recognizing the parents right to his opinion you also want to have a say in whether HE should be able to get it.
  - ryanwaggoner 8y ago
    My current perspective is that I don’t want the government rolling in to hammer ban things they don’t understand, but I don’t want to have to carefully evaluate every single app just in case they’re shady. Having the platforms that the apps live on compete with each other on a number of metrics, including privacy, seems like a great balance to me. If I think Apple got it wrong, there’s always Android.
    - ThomPete 8y ago
      "Every single app...." Unless you have some unusual high and crazy usage of new apps then this isn't the problem you try to make it. Rescue time isn't just some random app out there, they have a long track record. Calling that balance is quite puzzling. ". If I think Apple got it wrong, there’s always Android." Yeah just like if you are worried about privacy there is always the option of not using a phone at all. This is not an argument for anything.
      - ryanwaggoner 8y ago
        No need to speculate about what the situation would be without Apple’s policies and review process. Just look at the dumpster fire that is the Android app market. To each their own. Feel free to cry for the government to come and save you every time a company does something you don’t like.
        ThomPete 8y ago
        Nice strawman, do you have more of those? Where did I say the government should do that? Try with some intellectual honesty next time. Rescuetime is not some new company it's an old company who actually provide real utility and have been on the Apple platform for a long time. One would think that balance was to look at the utility and reputation of that company.