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Get em hooked then when they become dependent you take it away. It's interesting they chose flavored cigarettes and not flavored alcohol. The attack specifica
by millzlane 8y ago
Get em hooked then when they become dependent you take it away.
It's interesting they chose flavored cigarettes and not flavored alcohol. The attack specifically on menthol is meant to target the major users of the product. Its not about the kids. And its not about righting some wrong by cigarettes advertisers. This is meant to target the people who use the product.
- freedomben 8y agoI tend to agree. This strikes me as incredibly and clearly racist as well. They openly acknowledge which community this will target. It's astounding that a white senator (and mostly white FDA I would assume) imposing his/their will on a group of people primarily of color is perfectly acceptable to people.
- ada1981 8y agoYeah I didn’t see anything in the article talking about how menthol is any more dangerous than regular smokes - are they?
- cnasc 8y agoSince the menthol cools your throat it makes heavy smoking less unpleasant and also makes it easier for a new smoker to develop a habit. Whether there’s data to show that these effects are significant enough to justify a ban specifically on menthols, however, I don’t know.
- raquo 8y agohttps://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/8xdx7k/are-menthol-cigarettes-worse https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/8xdx7k/are-menthol-ciga... They are just as bad as regular cigarettes, possibly worse, and yet people perceive them as less bad, causing overconsumption.
- eof 8y agoI don't see any evidence that people perceive them to be less bad. That article fakes a reference to that claim but it goes to a link that is irrelevant to the claim. I have known many menthol smokers and have spent most of my life around smokers. I have literally never once heard the opinion menthol was somehow safer. In fact, I have often heard the opposite; with claims that the menthols have "fiber glass" in them.
- Alex3917 8y agoYes, it likely makes cigarettes more addictive and it's also a cough suppressant. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3720998/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3720998/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3720998/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3720998/
- andreareina 8y agoFTA: “Menthol makes it seem less harsh, and also makes the body absorb more nicotine,” she said. “That means it’s easier to start smoking and harder to quit.” So not more dangerous per se, but it mitigates barriers to its consumption.
- pessimizer 8y agoWhat's weird is that taking in more nicotine is an argument for menthol, because fewer puffs means fewer cancer causing chemicals. That's also the argument against filters and light cigarettes.
- smelendez 8y agoWhat the article doesn't mention is that other flavored cigarettes (clove, fruit, etc.) have been banned for years. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/WellnessNews/clove-flavored-cigarettes-dangerous/story?id=8780899 https://abcnews.go.com/Health/WellnessNews/clove-flavored-ci... At the time, people argued not including menthol in the ban was racist.
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- update 8y agoNot sure why you're being downvoted. "Menthol cigarettes [...] are particularly popular among black smokers — about four out of five report smoking them, according to federal surveys." [1] In fact, when Obama's FDA banned fruit- and candy-flavored cigarettes there was a group of black doctors who called on him to also ban menthol cigarettes. [2] [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/14/health/menthol-cigarettes-fda.html https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/14/health/menthol-cigarettes... [2] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/black-doctors-call-obama-ban-menthol-tobacco-products-n648616 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/black-doctors-call-obam...
- IAmGraydon 8y agoAnd what do you suppose the end game of this conspiracy is?
- donatj 8y agoI genuinely believe there’s a group of people out there who’s goal is to make us all live long miserable lives. I’d far rather optimize enjoyment/time to just time.
- leetcrew 8y agoit's a lot worse than that imo. these people genuinely believe that they possess the roadmap for living The Good Life. once they realize how much better their way is than the one we freely choose, it becomes immoral not to bend us toward their way of life.
- millzlane 8y agoNot sure if there is a conspiracy at play. But if we were to use our imagination we can probabaly come up with some pretty good ones. But I suspect it's to provoke and antagonize. If people in my community "one of the worst in the country" were to wake up to find out their favorite type of cigarette had been banned. I don't think people would be happy to find their liberty being encroached upon so egregiously. It's intresting they chose flavored cigarettes and not alcohol. One is a greater public safety issue than the other. The fact that they chose something so innocuous is the dead giveaway, that there is ulterior motive.