> What you know to be true yes, just don't call it science. It is science; basic chemistry tells you that carbon is conserved give or take a few nuclear reacti

> What you know to be true yes, just don't call it science. It is science; basic chemistry tells you that carbon is conserved give or take a few nuclear reactions. > You are talking about people who are already rich and can afford to moralize over what food they put in their mouth. That's a very different kind of people than I talk about. I address that in the same paragraph >> With respect to less prosperous communities, it is often the case that they have a more collectivistic mindset and community and in fact live under more taboos. Consider superstitions, rituals, and religious dietary restrictions. > I am talking about the fact that the chinese market isn't free and open yet does very well. Thanks for clarifying, in part, but I still don't see how this is an argument against to my notion of collective action being an essential component of technological development.