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#1 Does not violate TOS. At least the rep spoken to said it does not. It is permitted to apps to known when the screen is on / screen off, via the built-in noti

by laohu 8y ago

#1 Does not violate TOS. At least the rep spoken to said it does not. It is permitted to apps to known when the screen is on / screen off, via the built-in notification it provides.

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TimTheTinker 8y ago
Pasting section 2.5.4 here: Multitasking apps may only use background services for their intended purposes: VoIP, audio playback, location, task completion, local notifications, etc. If your app uses location background mode, include a reminder that doing so may dramatically decrease battery life. Screen time inference is clearly not an intended purpose for location, since the actual location data obtained has no connection to it (i.e. to #1 above; note we're interpreting "purpose" from the user's perspective). It sounds like the rep is misinformed, or that the TOS needs to be updated with an explicit exception.
- jwildeboer 8y ago
  The „etc“ is the word that turns a seemingly clear rule into an interpretation battle. Etc here could allow almost everything or nothing. Depending on what argument you want to push. Ultimately it’s Apple‘s walled garden and they have the final say.
  - ryanwaggoner 8y ago
    In your app configuration, you register your app as needing background capabilities for one or more specific “intended purposes”, and screen time recording isn’t one of them. So I don’t think the wording is actually unclear.
  - GavinMcG 8y ago
    No, it really doesn't. "Etc." just includes other services. But it's unambiguous that whatever the service, it must be used for its own sake.
aaaaaaaaaab 8y ago
>It is permitted to apps to known when the screen is on / screen off, via the built-in notification it provides. [citation needed]
- laohu 8y ago
  Unfortunately, this is from a phone call with Apple. Supposedly why there are multiple other apps currently in the store, accepted by apple, the do precisely the same approach for reporting phone use.

by laohu 8y ago

#1 Does not violate TOS. At least the rep spoken to said it does not. It is permitted to apps to known when the screen is on / screen off, via the built-in notification it provides.

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TimTheTinker 8y ago

Pasting section 2.5.4 here: Multitasking apps may only use background services for their intended purposes: VoIP, audio playback, location, task completion, local notifications, etc. If your app uses location background mode, include a reminder that doing so may dramatically decrease battery life. Screen time inference is clearly not an intended purpose for location, since the actual location data obtained has no connection to it (i.e. to #1 above; note we're interpreting "purpose" from the user's perspective). It sounds like the rep is misinformed, or that the TOS needs to be updated with an explicit exception.

jwildeboer 8y ago
The „etc“ is the word that turns a seemingly clear rule into an interpretation battle. Etc here could allow almost everything or nothing. Depending on what argument you want to push. Ultimately it’s Apple‘s walled garden and they have the final say.
- ryanwaggoner 8y ago
  In your app configuration, you register your app as needing background capabilities for one or more specific “intended purposes”, and screen time recording isn’t one of them. So I don’t think the wording is actually unclear.
- GavinMcG 8y ago
  No, it really doesn't. "Etc." just includes other services. But it's unambiguous that whatever the service, it must be used for its own sake.

aaaaaaaaaab 8y ago

>It is permitted to apps to known when the screen is on / screen off, via the built-in notification it provides. [citation needed]

laohu 8y ago
Unfortunately, this is from a phone call with Apple. Supposedly why there are multiple other apps currently in the store, accepted by apple, the do precisely the same approach for reporting phone use.