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> This is the problem with GDPR. Each member state decides what's clear and what's not. That's no so much a problem with GDPR as nation states.

reitanqild 8y ago
Nation states has problems. But I can't think of a better alternative: - one world government? All the problems of nation states and then some. Plus nowhere to seek refuge. It's not like a government more powerful than all todays governments would magically become less corrupted. - no government? Has it's own problems as well. What we have today is a mess but IMO it's the price we have to pay to avoid the worst dictatorship imaginable on this earth or going back to the dark ages.
TangoTrotFox 8y ago
The alternative is centralization of government which changes nothing except ensures that once corrupted its scale would affect what, at scale, could even be the entire world. It also gives bad actors a single target to focus all their energy (and influence) on. In my opinion the solution is to go in the opposite direction. I think the 'closer' to the people, both figuratively and literally, a government is, the more they tend to be held accountable. Romania's revolution against Ceausescu was a very clear, and quite literal, illustration of this. As an aside, "nation state" is not a fancy way of saying country. It has a specific meaning denoting a mostly ethnically homogeneous nation. E.g. Belgium is most certainly not a nation state.
- azernik 8y ago
  Not necessarily ethnically homogeneous; just one that explicitly endorses the ethnic nationalism of the dominant group. For example, Slovakia, Israel, and Lithuania all have substantial ethnic minorities (respectively Hungarian, Arab, and Russian) with varying degrees of protection for minority groups, yet are very much nation-states.
BurningFrog 8y ago
> That's no so much a problem with GDPR as nation states. Out of GDPR and nation states, only one can be abolished.

reitanqild 8y ago

Nation states has problems. But I can't think of a better alternative: - one world government? All the problems of nation states and then some. Plus nowhere to seek refuge. It's not like a government more powerful than all todays governments would magically become less corrupted. - no government? Has it's own problems as well. What we have today is a mess but IMO it's the price we have to pay to avoid the worst dictatorship imaginable on this earth or going back to the dark ages.

TangoTrotFox 8y ago

The alternative is centralization of government which changes nothing except ensures that once corrupted its scale would affect what, at scale, could even be the entire world. It also gives bad actors a single target to focus all their energy (and influence) on. In my opinion the solution is to go in the opposite direction. I think the 'closer' to the people, both figuratively and literally, a government is, the more they tend to be held accountable. Romania's revolution against Ceausescu was a very clear, and quite literal, illustration of this. As an aside, "nation state" is not a fancy way of saying country. It has a specific meaning denoting a mostly ethnically homogeneous nation. E.g. Belgium is most certainly not a nation state.

azernik 8y ago
Not necessarily ethnically homogeneous; just one that explicitly endorses the ethnic nationalism of the dominant group. For example, Slovakia, Israel, and Lithuania all have substantial ethnic minorities (respectively Hungarian, Arab, and Russian) with varying degrees of protection for minority groups, yet are very much nation-states.

BurningFrog 8y ago

> That's no so much a problem with GDPR as nation states. Out of GDPR and nation states, only one can be abolished.